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10 Red States Now Questioning Nelson Deal
New York Times ^ | December 23, 2009 | Katharine Q. Seeleye

Posted on 12/23/2009 12:13:54 PM PST by reaganaut1

At least 10 states are now raising questions about the legality of the deal that Senator Ben Nelson, a Democrat, cut for his home state of Nebraska during the health care negotiations.

Under the agreement, which is on the verge of being approved Thursday by the Senate, Nebraska is permanently exempt from paying for its expansion of Medicaid, shoving that cost onto taxpayers in every other state.

Mr. Nelson was able to exercise such leverage because in exchange, he was providing the magical 60th vote that Democrats needed to advance their health care bill.

The deal has enraged other Senators, especially those from red states, whose Republican Senators didn’t bring home any pork at all because they were not part of the negotiations with Democratic leaders. Several other Democratic Senators did get concessions for their states, but no deal has hit the nerve struck by Mr. Nelson’s.

Attorneys general in at least 10 states held a conference call late Tuesday to consider how they might challenge the deal, which they call federally subsidized vote-buying.

Some say it is certainly unfair and may be unconstitutional.

Troy King, the attorney general in Alabama, told MSNBC on Wednesday that the Constitution was not written to allow “the subsidization of a backroom deal.”

The Constitution, he said, was written to protect citizens from arbitrary and capricious decisions by Congress, not “for Congress to force Alabama to subsidize vote-buying.”

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Could the growing backlash threaten passage of the health care bill? Mr. Nelson has said that he would vote for the bill only if nothing in it were changed. That makes it seem unlikely that Democratic leaders would try to undo the bill before the Thursday vote because doing so could threaten final passage.

(Excerpt) Read more at prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; 111th; bhohealthcare; bribery; bribes; corruption; graft; nebraskacompromise; nebraskamedicaid; nelson; obama; obamacare; sale; senate; sovereignty; vote
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1 posted on 12/23/2009 12:13:54 PM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

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2 posted on 12/23/2009 12:14:48 PM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: reaganaut1

Even if the constitutionality of this provision in the bill it would only address Nelson’s bribe. The remainder of the bill would remain intact.


3 posted on 12/23/2009 12:16:32 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: reaganaut1
What an odd headline!
4 posted on 12/23/2009 12:17:23 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: massmike

Mr Nelson has said a lot of things, none of which are to be believed.


5 posted on 12/23/2009 12:18:03 PM PST by learner
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To: reaganaut1

All the Dem leadership has to do is remove this provision from the bill in conference committee. They only need 51 senators to pass it now.


6 posted on 12/23/2009 12:18:25 PM PST by postoak
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To: saganite
Even if the constitutionality of this provision in the bill it would only address Nelson’s bribe. The remainder of the bill would remain intact.

At least it would be nice to see that Nelson sold out for squat.

7 posted on 12/23/2009 12:18:32 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: saganite

I read a day or so ago about several states that were going to sue over this (bill and Nelson, I think).

Hopefully it would go straight to the USSC. Then, with it’s make-up now ... the decision is any body’s guess.


8 posted on 12/23/2009 12:19:17 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: reaganaut1

Mr. Nelson was able to exercise such leverage because in exchange, he was providing the magical 60th vote
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To the RAT mind, that’s ALL that matters. Not history, not the US Constitution, not the will of the American people.

RATS are sickeningly CORRUPT period.


9 posted on 12/23/2009 12:19:46 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: postoak

Yep, even Nelson can vote “no” now and try to salvage himself with enraged Nebraskans.


10 posted on 12/23/2009 12:20:09 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: reaganaut1

It’s past time we enforce the 10th Amendment and remind Congress just who created it.


11 posted on 12/23/2009 12:20:15 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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The deal has enraged other Senators, especially those from red states, whose Republican Senators didn’t bring home any pork at all because they were not part of the negotiations with Democratic leaders.
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Uh, so what mattered was the pork? Leave it to the New York Slimes...


12 posted on 12/23/2009 12:20:41 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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Nelson you dumbass whore; they are going to take your 30 pieces of silver away from you and put abortion funding back in at conference committee. Then it will be too late for you to stop the bill and you will have nothing.


13 posted on 12/23/2009 12:20:52 PM PST by henkster (tagline under reconstruction)
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To: Sans-Culotte

I’m sure he knows it’ll be knocked down in the Supreme Court, but he’ll brag he got it put in for NE anyhow.


14 posted on 12/23/2009 12:21:10 PM PST by MNDude (The Republican Congress Economy--1995-2007)
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To: Sir Gawain
The Senate is voting now on whether this violates the 10th amendment.

-PJ

15 posted on 12/23/2009 12:21:34 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: NEMDF

Yep, even Nelson can vote “no” now and try to salvage himself with enraged Nebraskans.
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Too bad it won’t work. I think he’s GONE. Sellout - and with his talk about pro-life to boot...grrr...


16 posted on 12/23/2009 12:21:52 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: postoak

Just curious... why do they only need 51 votes NOW? i thought the nuclear option was for “budget” reasons....


17 posted on 12/23/2009 12:22:22 PM PST by mikelets456
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To: reaganaut1

There’s some blue ones that should too. Fools.


18 posted on 12/23/2009 12:22:29 PM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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To: MNDude

Nelson is a Democrat. He will vote the way is party dictates - regardless of the payoff.


19 posted on 12/23/2009 12:22:48 PM PST by Herodes
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To: massmike

In the perverted minds of the liberal socialists, “some states are more equal than others.”


20 posted on 12/23/2009 12:23:08 PM PST by Common Sense 101
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