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McCain, GOP secretly courting another Dem to switch
Politico.com ^ | 12-23-09 | JONATHAN MARTIN & JOSH KRAUSHAAR & PATRICK O'CONNOR

Posted on 12/23/2009 2:58:14 PM PST by Justaham

Republicans are stepping up their efforts to persuade more House Democrats to switch parties and are zeroing in on a second-term Pennsylvanian who is not ruling out such a move.

Democratic Rep. Chris Carney received a phone call Wednesday from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) asking him to consider becoming a Republican, a top GOP official told POLITICO. A spokesman for Carney declined to say if the congressman was considering such a switch.

“No further comment at this time,” said Carney spokesman Josh Drobnyk, who would only confirm that the call took place.

In a brief interview, McCain declined to offer details about the conversation. “I just said, ‘Whatever you do, I know that you’ll make the right decision for the country,’” said the Arizonan.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 111th; democrats; mccain; mccaintruthfile; realignment; rino
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1 posted on 12/23/2009 2:58:14 PM PST by Justaham
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To: Justaham

Joe Biden?


2 posted on 12/23/2009 2:58:51 PM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: Justaham

Could the GOP pull 5 Dems from the House to sabotage this bill? They have to find some way.


3 posted on 12/23/2009 3:00:27 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Justaham

Eee Gads... one can just imagine the type of person McCain will try to get to swap parties.


4 posted on 12/23/2009 3:01:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: Frantzie

I smell a RINO attack. If he switches he could be beaten by a conservative in Nov. McClame is at it again.


5 posted on 12/23/2009 3:01:52 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Carl LaFong

That would be funny! I know it would never happen, but man, that would 24/7 comedy. At least 0 would never have another trip or vacation.


6 posted on 12/23/2009 3:02:23 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (A good Blue Dog is an unelected Blue Dog. Ditto Rino's!)
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To: Frantzie

Ps - thanks Dede and Newt.

Could they pull 4 Dems and get Cao to switch his vote?


7 posted on 12/23/2009 3:02:32 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Justaham

Well, at least they’re doing something.

Before everybody here shoots them down and tells them this isn’t worth the effort...yes, it is.

I don’t care about their past track record. What they do now is what counts, and anybody who is not against us is for us, paraphrasing what a certain Person said.


8 posted on 12/23/2009 3:02:59 PM PST by livius
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To: DoughtyOne

If McCain can figure out a way to sink Obamacare by pulling 5 or 6 Dems in the House - he probably would be a major hero.


9 posted on 12/23/2009 3:04:03 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Justaham

Good. If they could get half dozen or so to switch that might help.


10 posted on 12/23/2009 3:04:05 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Justaham

mccain,butt out,you are toast in 2010.


11 posted on 12/23/2009 3:04:20 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: Justaham

Getting them to switch is one thing. But supporting them in a reelection bid against a more conservative candidate, HELL NO.

We have enough Rino’s in Juan McCain.


12 posted on 12/23/2009 3:04:51 PM PST by VicVega (2010 Let only Real Conservatives win. Say good night John McCain.)
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To: livius

I almost do not care how the GOP sinks ObamaCare - if they pull it off - they would be major heroes. 5 or 6 Dems in the House probably are tired of getting threatened by O’s goons. At this point - whatever it takes.


13 posted on 12/23/2009 3:05:48 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Frantzie

Yes, if John could pull that off, I’d be first in line to give him kudos for it. Meanwhile, in the land of constant pain for Conservatives, life goes on.


14 posted on 12/23/2009 3:07:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: Carl LaFong

A reliable Democratic leadership vote! Voted for stimulus, healthcare, financial regulation all opposed by more conservative Democrats. Get a good candidate to run against him and he’s history. The worst thing to do is to make him a Republican.


15 posted on 12/23/2009 3:07:35 PM PST by excopconservative
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To: Frantzie

That’s the important question. I think this is a great strategy. If so, the Dems will be out putting oil on the steps and trying to eliminate the wavering members.

Prayers for the latter and for whoever is trying to get them to switch. If this bill doesn’t go through now, it will buy us time.

Obama desperately wants to get at least the shell through, and once he has done that, it’s all over. But if the GOP can at least stop this from happening at this moment, I think we can muster forces and it may never happen.

And the idiots who are criticizing the people who are attempting it should just shut up.


16 posted on 12/23/2009 3:09:09 PM PST by livius
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To: Justaham
McCain to Chris Carney: Why don't you become a Republican?

Carney to McCain: You first!

17 posted on 12/23/2009 3:11:59 PM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: Justaham

Not much of a secret now is it? LOL


18 posted on 12/23/2009 3:12:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Justaham

f you Juan Mclame you p.o.s. RINO
Go home to Arizona and drool ya too old fool.


19 posted on 12/23/2009 3:12:09 PM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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To: Justaham
The RINOs are feathering their nest......I guess they are feeling the heat.
20 posted on 12/23/2009 3:15:04 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Justaham

Wouldn’t it just be easier for McCain to become a Dem? And take his little dog Toto Graham with him?


21 posted on 12/23/2009 3:19:21 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! May God and TEA save the Republic!!)
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To: Joe Boucher; rightwingextremist1776

Ah, the Keyboard Kommandos strike again. If we were all as perfect as you are, we wouldn’t be in this situation. But life isn’t like that.

Give them their Road to Damascus moment (google it if you don’t know what I’m talking about) and encourage them for at least attempting to oppose this monstrous opposition of fascism.

Why shoot them down when they’re actually doing something right? How is that any incentive?


22 posted on 12/23/2009 3:20:15 PM PST by livius
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To: Justaham

Switching to a minority party is very unusual and a sign of how bad the Dems have gotten.


23 posted on 12/23/2009 3:20:44 PM PST by omega4179 (Wanting things is not the same as knowing things.)
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To: livius

If Newt and Dede had not screwed us with the NY State RINO GOP in NY 23 then that would hev been one more vote.

Maybe that Repub in MA can win Kennedy’s seat on the Jan 19 election. There has to be qa way to stop this bill or sabotage it.


24 posted on 12/23/2009 3:24:13 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: livius

maybe they want obamacare to pass and totally wreck the country so that the one true pure conservative will emerge from the ashes and lead us to the promised land


25 posted on 12/23/2009 3:25:25 PM PST by ari-freedom (Global warming is the biggest scientific hoax since the Piltdown man.)
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To: Justaham

Every little bit helps to rid us of Speaker Nancy. Her demotion will be the sweetest thing.


26 posted on 12/23/2009 3:28:05 PM PST by SoDak (bitter clinger)
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To: omega4179

I think we were only able to do that after the GOP won in 94


27 posted on 12/23/2009 3:28:13 PM PST by ari-freedom (Global warming is the biggest scientific hoax since the Piltdown man.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Ditto.


28 posted on 12/23/2009 3:28:41 PM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal!)
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To: Frantzie

Yes, that’s true. But IMHO, if there’s any way we can get a vote, we go for it.

I hope this bill can be stopped and I honestly don’t care who stops it.

Once Obama and the radical left get the shell in place, there will be no leverage over the Dems, no way to stop the “enhancement” of the act, and we will be so screwed the only way out will be something I don’t even want to contemplate. It’s got to be stopped NOW.


29 posted on 12/23/2009 3:45:43 PM PST by livius
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To: ari-freedom

Probably. That will happen about the time the 1 Billionth Imam arises from his well.


30 posted on 12/23/2009 3:46:44 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

Ya get to a point where ya’d rather go down to defeat than continue following old crap like RINO McLame and his ilk.

Graham, McLame, Martinez? NO MORE NEVER AGAIN.
Conservative or f-off. NO F-ING RINOs.


31 posted on 12/23/2009 3:48:45 PM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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To: Frantzie

Blue Dog Dems are in a lot of trouble in the South and Midwest. Families who have voted for Dem’s for generations in those regions have now seen the light. This is even happening to an extent in Massachusetts in the special election. The GOP candidate is a long shot to win, but he could wind up with a strong showing at the voting booth next month.

The Blue Dog Dem in my district is scared for the first time. Older rural voters (traditionally Democrat voters) turned out for local townhall meetings and Tea Parties. Things are changing here. Today we received a mailing from the Blue Dog Dem with the title “Protecting Medicare for Florida Seniors”. Best laugh of the day.


32 posted on 12/23/2009 3:57:27 PM PST by ruralvoter
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To: Joe Boucher

This is one defeat we can’t afford. Once Bambi and the Dems get this one in place, I honestly think we’re not going to be able to do anything about it, or at any rate, not through the normal channels.

All they want is the framework and the enforcement mechanism now, and they’ll fill in the details later. I think the light is beginning to dawn even for idiot RINOs, and they may be having the one good moment of their entire political careers.

I have never liked McCain and I voted for him because he was the only alternative to Obama and I was really voting for Sarah. I read a comment once that McCain was the only POW ever known to gain weight, and I think this reflects his compromising mentality. But even if he has just stood up for this one thing, we should support him at this moment, on this issue, and not shoot ourselves in the foot.


33 posted on 12/23/2009 3:58:47 PM PST by livius
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To: Justaham

plenty of state legislatures now in control by GOP and they are redistricting...

this is why Bart Gordon opted out

our biggest problem is in the Senate

and not just with Dems


34 posted on 12/23/2009 4:00:35 PM PST by wardaddy (Say Merry Christmas or I'll kill you..slow....I am weary of the onslaught on Christ in America)
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To: Frantzie
don't hold your breath mccain had the chance to sink obozo ship yet he passed!
35 posted on 12/23/2009 4:05:04 PM PST by FreeperFlirt
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To: lmarie373; Abundy; missanne; Victoria Delsoul; 50mm; stockpirate; Eaker; ducdriver; ChrisInAR; ...
McCain...trying to bring in more RINOs? What a shock.
36 posted on 12/23/2009 4:14:31 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m OK with grabbing these seats this way now but these seats will need to go into conservative hands in the next election.


37 posted on 12/23/2009 4:21:49 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Justaham

Mccain give me a break all you had to do is get your first choice of VP not to vote for this thing and now you want to lead the opposition what a joke.


38 posted on 12/23/2009 4:22:41 PM PST by Three if by government
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To: Justaham

A PA Democrat named Atkinson switched in 1981 and was promptly retired by the liberal PA voters in 1982.


39 posted on 12/23/2009 4:25:33 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: livius

Maybe you didn’t get the memo?

NO MORE GUTLESS RINOs!

THAT INCLUDES ‘RATS JUMPING SHIP! We’ll just get them in the primary anyway.....


40 posted on 12/23/2009 4:31:16 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Justaham

McCain probably told him he could switch sides as often as he wanted to .... and the GOP still might nominate him for president some day.


41 posted on 12/23/2009 4:35:48 PM PST by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

I agree, but we need anybody we can get right now. Once this bill gets to be law, there’s only one way out, and it’s not going to be through the legislature.

Maybe they’ve had a wake-up call and realize they won’t be reelected unless they change. Let’s watch them and see if they change.

But in the meantime, we shouldn’t shoot them down when they’re actually (for whatever reason) trying to do the right thing.


42 posted on 12/23/2009 4:36:05 PM PST by livius
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To: Justaham
Why not?

After all, we have been recruiting muslims as physicians for our combat troops, translators for terrorist interrogations, analysts for the CIA, sensitivity trainers for several government agencies, and ornaments for the WH Christmas Communist-Kwanzaa tree.

Might as well let all the barbarians through the gates!

43 posted on 12/23/2009 4:39:36 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
You wanna know the truth? Ain't a DAMN thing they are gonna do except POLLUTE our ranks. ANYBODY who came up through the ‘Rat machine to power is condemned as far as I'm concerned.....no way.

I say we keep our backs up, stay strong, and SUPPORT ONLY Conservative candidates. The best way to do that is to make sure a ‘Rat in RINO clothing isn't sitting as the current occupant with RNC RINO support.

THAT'S HOW THIS GAME NEEDS TO BE PLAYED!

I'm not interested in saving some ‘Rat's rear end.

44 posted on 12/23/2009 4:42:36 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: livius

Somehow I responded to my post instead of yours, please see the above post.....we need to be smart, not panicked.....


45 posted on 12/23/2009 4:45:16 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Democratic Rep. Chris Carney received a phone call Wednesday from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) asking him to consider becoming a Republican, a top GOP official told POLITICO. A spokesman for Carney declined to say if the congressman was considering such a switch.

46 posted on 12/23/2009 4:48:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: livius

Maybe a bit of balls left in the GOP yet. Maybe McCain meant what he said about fighting until the very end.


47 posted on 12/23/2009 4:50:10 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Frantzie

Brown has an outliers chance, but somebody is going to have to come up with some serious money and also do some SERIOUS grass roots organizing. I know in my town there is an informal GOP network trying to people off their ass and to the town hall to cast an absentee ballot.


48 posted on 12/23/2009 4:55:42 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

OK, thanks. I agree with you in the long run, but all that I’m saying is that at this particular moment, we need all the support we can get. We can argue about the details later.

The crucial thing is to stop this abomination from being imposed on us.


49 posted on 12/23/2009 5:03:10 PM PST by livius
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To: willgolfforfood

Carney: Hello?

McCain: Hello Carney, this is John McCain, how bout we talk about you switching over to my party?

Carney: Thanks but sorry John, I want to join the Republican Party. Have that Sarah girl call me and then we will talk. *click*


50 posted on 12/23/2009 5:04:15 PM PST by RatsDawg
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