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BINARY EXPLOSIVES: FROM DISCUSSION TO IMPLEMENTATION
INTERNET HAGANAH.com ^ | December 26, 2009 | Aaron Weisburd

Posted on 12/26/2009 2:37:05 PM PST by Cindy

SNIPPET: "Discussion: I first observed discussion of binary explosives on the al-Firdaws forum in January of 2007. In light of recent events I will post here my archive:"

SNIPPET: "Implementation: On Christmas Day, 2009, Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab boards a flight in Amsterdam, bound for Detroit, and on final descent he attempts to set off what was most likely a binary explosive. Thank goodness he either screwed up or had bad instructions, because the chemicals he was working with were evidently quite good."

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To: theBuckwheat

A smoke filled cabin with an out of control fire could be just as deadly as the plane actually going down, in terms of casualties.


61 posted on 12/26/2009 3:51:33 PM PST by jersey117
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To: UCANSEE2

All I know is that after the shoebomber screwed his bomb we had to start taking off our shoes to go through security at airports.

This time the bomb was in his underwear.

sigh


62 posted on 12/26/2009 3:51:45 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: nevergore

For your post no. 35:

Video:

Jerry Lee Lewis - “Great Balls of Fire”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IjgZGhHrYY


63 posted on 12/26/2009 3:51:55 PM PST by Cindy
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To: jersey117

(and the contents of the smoke, too.)

Ditto your post.


64 posted on 12/26/2009 3:52:49 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

There is something ya don’t read on FR everyday........o)


65 posted on 12/26/2009 3:55:15 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: chilltherats; ExTexasRedhead; Nachum; JustPiper
They should be flying en masse to the fartherest corners of the earth to spread the word of their great religion of peace!

While we are driving across the country to avoid flying.........this PC non-profiling mentality is not only raising our airline ticket prices, but destroying the airline industry slowly but surely.

It's a sheer gamble to shell out X amount of dollars for a non-refundable airline ticket and see that a half dozen or more fellow "passengers" are people you have personally profiled and now (at the gate) have absolutely no desire to share a flight with.

No one I know wants to fly anywhere anymore.

66 posted on 12/26/2009 3:58:44 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: TC Rider

Welp, the best thing to do is to hang out near attractive members of the opposite sex as you go through airport security. :D


67 posted on 12/26/2009 4:01:50 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Squantos

Yep, it’s disgusting — like the jihadis.


68 posted on 12/26/2009 4:02:36 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

Perhaps a different thrust on this thread is in order.

We believe that the terrorist had a PETN bomb strapped to his nether regions and he had a non-metallic binary detonater configured to explode the PETN.

The Magnetometers that we currently use for screening in most airports will not likely detect this sort of a device. However, TSA has a device that will: the L3Com Pro-vision, a millimeter wave radar screening device. This system is in use in several airports on a trial basis. Some have complained because it can (horror of horrors), see beneath your clothes. That it can, but it doesn’t really show much beyond what you would see at the beach or your local supermarket. In the hands of a skilled operator, it would have almost certainly detected this device.

I have tested this device for a DoD agency and can attest that it is the smoothest thing since plain peanut butter. Its not coming into general use because of political correctness and likely attacks by the lefty legal crowd. But, its time to stop using the feel good security measures and start using systems like this together with an extensive profiling/interviewing scheme.


69 posted on 12/26/2009 4:05:18 PM PST by centurion316
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To: TC Rider

So we fly naked now, problem solved./s


70 posted on 12/26/2009 4:06:12 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: Cindy

>He was an engineering student.

Must learn “testing”.


71 posted on 12/26/2009 4:15:40 PM PST by ROTB (Public Option vs. Insurance: Armed men at my door demanding payment vs a "bill")
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To: Cindy

Yeah, “student.” LOL


72 posted on 12/26/2009 4:16:26 PM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: UCANSEE2
Had he not have screwed up, would the FBI have determined that a fire caused by electrical wires running through the Center Wing Tank started the fire and caused the explosion?

Nah. Gotta be 'metal fatigue'.

Center tank explosions are reserved as explanations for missile hits.

73 posted on 12/26/2009 4:16:44 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Both were sewn into the student’s underwear so they would be near his testicles and unlikely to be detected, he told agents....”
________________________________________________

“Test...um...nuts roasting on a open fiiiiiiire”. Seriously, tho......I hope he suffers like HELL! I hope nurses withdraw the morphine.


74 posted on 12/26/2009 4:16:56 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: MamaDearest

Political correctness was devised to destroy capitalism and society’s freedoms. If we let it succeed, then so it shall.


75 posted on 12/26/2009 4:18:46 PM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Cindy

Shall we assume terrorist chemical engineers were trained at the best US engineering schools?


76 posted on 12/26/2009 4:21:23 PM PST by GOPJ (Journalists as BaghdadBobLite - Global Warming Scientists as ElmerGantry - what's happening?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Nope, that’s not it, either. Bush and Rove planned it and put it in motion in order to make zero look bad, even though he’s done a fine job of doing that all on his own.


77 posted on 12/26/2009 4:21:32 PM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: GOPJ

London


78 posted on 12/26/2009 4:23:41 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

“This alleged attack on a U.S. airplane on Christmas Day shows that we must remain vigilant in the fight against terrorism at all times,” Attorney General Eric Holder said. “Had this alleged plot to destroy an airplane been successful, scores of innocent people would have been killed or injured. We will continue to investigate this matter vigorously, and we will use all measures available to our government to ensure that anyone responsible for this attempted attack is brought to justice.”


Man, Eric, are you a real man of genius or what! Whatya want, a medal or a chest to pin it on???


“Abdulmutallab required medical treatment...”


Whats a good salve to put on burns???

Salt???

Japaleno juice???


79 posted on 12/26/2009 4:23:51 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: chilltherats
I wouldn’t think that a black Nigerian would have a strong likelihood of success in most any technical undertaking.

Why not? We have educated many engineering students from there in our universities here in the US, including chemical engineers.

Sounds like someone got the mixture wrong or maybe failed to mix a binary properly.

That part could be attributed to faulty instructions, poorly transmitted instructions, or a terrorist footsoldier not paying attention to instructions.

Even more simply, the job has been done short of crashing that plane.

Increased security/airport hassles, more 'fear of flying', and other spinoffs will ensue, regardless.

I wonder if one of Obammy's pals is sending him a 'message' over some unfulfilled promise made off the media radar?

80 posted on 12/26/2009 4:24:46 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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