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Posted on 12/27/2009 12:44:08 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Fire Napolitano [Jonah Goldberg]

Understandbly, the White House is trying very hard to get out in front of the would-be Christmas bomber story. The head of the Department of Homeland Security isn't helping. I watched her on three shows and each time she was more annoying, maddening and absurd than the pevious appearance. It is her basic position that the "system worked" because the bureaucrats responded properly after the attack. That the attack was "foiled" by a bad detonator and some civilian passengers is proof, she claims, that her agency is doing everything right. That is just about the dumbest thing she could say, on the merits and politically. I would wager that not one percent of Americans think the system is "working" when terrorists successfully get bombs onto planes (and succeed in activating them). Probably even fewer think it's fair that they have to take off their shoes, endure delays and madness while a known Islamic radical — turned in by his own father — can waltz onto a plane (and into the country). DHS had no role whatsoever in assuring that this bomb didn't go off. By her logic if the bomb had gone off, the system would have "worked" since it has done everything right.

Napolitano has a habit of arguing that DHS is a first responder outfit. Its mission is to deal with "man-caused-disasters" afer they occur. It appears she really believes it. If the White House wants to assure people that it takes the war on terror seriously (a term Robert Gibbs used this morning by the way), they could start by firing this patenly unqualified hack.

Here she is her own words, over at RealClearPolitics.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 12/27/2009 12:44:10 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
I would wager that not one percent of Americans think the system is "working" when terrorists successfully get bombs onto planes (and succeed in activating them). Probably even fewer think it's fair that they have to take off their shoes, endure delays and madness while a known Islamic radical — turned in by his own father — can waltz onto a plane (and into the country). DHS had no role whatsoever in assuring that this bomb didn't go off.

Jonah's right. Janet needs to step down or be fired or be forced to fly commercial ...

2 posted on 12/27/2009 12:47:08 PM PST by GOPJ (Rick Santelli for Man of the Year! - Freeper mewzilla)
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To: Sub-Driver

AND Gibbs is out there to say, “The security procedures have been in place for a long time” and “they are going to be looked at.” Why didn’t he come right out and say, “The procedures were put in place by the Bush Administration.” Guess someone smarter than Gibbs decided that wouldn’t work any longer.

What has Napolitano been doing all this time if not reviewing the security procedures of this country?


3 posted on 12/27/2009 12:50:14 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Sub-Driver

Why would Dear Leader fire her? In his sick view of America, the Dept of Homeland Security is more like the Committee for State Security. As long as (white/Christian/veteran) terrorists aren’t threatening the State, then it’s not really terrorism.


4 posted on 12/27/2009 12:51:53 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Imagine a day when the politicians have to hold a bake sale to pay for votes!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Don’t stop with firing her, fire the Pres,vp,Congress and Senate along with all their crooked friends.


5 posted on 12/27/2009 12:53:07 PM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: Sub-Driver

Send her back to NYC where she came from, I’m sure they love her. Keep her away from AZ, please. Our budget has had enough of her.


6 posted on 12/27/2009 12:53:09 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: Sub-Driver

Nappy’s job is to protect the Obamao from criticism from American citizens.

Terrorist bah! Not her purview at all.


7 posted on 12/27/2009 12:54:09 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Sub-Driver
It is her basic position that the "system worked" because the bureaucrats responded properly after the attack.

If it's her view that the department of homeland securities mandate is to just clean up after a "man caused disaster" then she has proved her incompetence...and Obama's for selecting her. The real man caused disaster is the Obama administration.

8 posted on 12/27/2009 12:54:23 PM PST by highlander_UW (Democrats used to be just the party of corruption, now they are the party of treason as well)
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To: Sub-Driver
Probably even fewer think it's fair that they have to take off their shoes, endure delays and madness while a known Islamic radical — turned in by his own father — can waltz onto a plane (and into the country).

And he boarded WITHOUT a passport, which is apparently common practice according to one news article I read earlier.

9 posted on 12/27/2009 12:56:15 PM PST by highlander_UW (Democrats used to be just the party of corruption, now they are the party of treason as well)
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To: Sub-Driver

A challenge: Can any freeper name a post 9-11 instance in which a dire security threat did suddenly present on an airliner, the situation was resolved, and this was BECAUSE of new regulations?

My own belief is that we simply have to head them off BEFORE they even get on the plane...


10 posted on 12/27/2009 12:56:25 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Sub-Driver

She is out looking to lock up Vets and then real terrorist go. Worthless!


11 posted on 12/27/2009 12:56:46 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sub-Driver
That is just about the dumbest thing she could say.

That's because she IS dumb: she's a democrat; she's an idiot -- right along with all the rest of the idiots in our nation's capital starting with the present occupant of the WH.

"Terrorism" is dead in obambi's administration, remember? And they can't even get crime prevention right.

12 posted on 12/27/2009 1:01:10 PM PST by Jerrybob
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To: Sub-Driver
Enemies of the Republic collector's card #7:
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13 posted on 12/27/2009 1:01:12 PM PST by Tawiskaro
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To: Sub-Driver

She had no business in that position to begin with. The entire administration is totally inept.


14 posted on 12/27/2009 1:02:13 PM PST by jersey117
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To: Thank You Rush

Sorry Gibbs but the terrorist’s father notified the US embassy just last month. Alsos, Amsterdam officials said the U.S. cleared the passenger list. That makes it a State Department failure as well as a Homeland Security failure.


15 posted on 12/27/2009 1:03:47 PM PST by jersey117
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To: highlander_UW

It’s deeper than that. Bush and some conservatives believed that yet ANOTHER government department being formed would somehow save the US from terrorists and other threats. That’s the fatal flaw. The CIA has never been fixed, it’s filled with career bureaucrats and timid risk avoiders, the FBI has, more than once, been rocked by scandal, even in its science laboratories and evidence-—the bureaucracy is intent on self-perpetuation-—not on the safety of the US.

it’s difficult for the well-intentioned and determined agent or civil servant to make a difference and this is just more proof.

Meanwhile, the FEDERALIZED TSA workers are more incompetent than ever, the regulations are more oppressive and for no reason and without any possible foreseeable benefit.

I’d rather have Blackwater and private security firms handle PRIVATE security for airlines and transportation.


16 posted on 12/27/2009 1:04:53 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Sub-Driver

She gives herself a solid B+ for the handling of this.


17 posted on 12/27/2009 1:06:07 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: gaijin

Why yes...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1048961/posts

>>>A challenge: Can any freeper name a post 9-11 instance in which a dire security threat did suddenly present on an airliner, the situation was resolved, and this was BECAUSE of new regulations?


18 posted on 12/27/2009 1:06:12 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Sub-Driver

Absolutely right. And again I will waste my time calling the White House and DHS (if I can find a number) to tell them this nincompoop must resign or be fired

Two terrorists attacks on US soil since Mr. Empty Suit was elected Our Pres. TWO! 2!

How many more will there be over the next 3 long years?

Cripes, this is even more important than the economy.

And he cannot, CANNOT be premitted to return any Gitmo jihadis to Yemen.

Someone needs to stop that plan in its tracks.


19 posted on 12/27/2009 1:06:17 PM PST by jocon307
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To: highlander_UW

Yup , they responded correctly after the fact...

Who is going to be left to clean up after the obama disaster?


20 posted on 12/27/2009 1:07:25 PM PST by himno hero
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To: jersey117

There should be two forms of intelligence: Domestic and foreign. Foreign intel should consist solely of military intelligence and various state department affiliates. The CIA should be disbanded. FBI should handle any domestic intelligence/surveillance.

If anything, by making smaller units, fewer lines of communication, turf wars, group loyalties, you will have more effective intelligence and defense.

End the “intelligence bureaucracy.”


21 posted on 12/27/2009 1:07:37 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Sub-Driver
1) Had the bomber not failed to detonate as intended and

2) Had the passengers done nothing

The plane would be a flaming, strewn wreck on the runway with dozens and probably hundreds of dead passengers.

Janet Reno Napolitano thinks the dumb American public will believe her ridiculous lie on this one.

And why shouldn't she? They dismiss any lie by Obama. Like his Obama momma meeting Obama daddy in 1965 and him being born later ---- in 1961.
22 posted on 12/27/2009 1:08:01 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Skywalk
It’s deeper than that. Bush and some conservatives believed that yet ANOTHER government department being formed would somehow save the US from terrorists and other threats. That’s the fatal flaw. The CIA has never been fixed, it’s filled with career bureaucrats and timid risk avoiders, the FBI has, more than once, been rocked by scandal, even in its science laboratories and evidence-—the bureaucracy is intent on self-perpetuation-—not on the safety of the US.

You make a very strong point here. And part of the problem is that the democrat party's primary interest is in growing the size and scope of government and it's control...but the focus is on apparatus and not effectiveness.

23 posted on 12/27/2009 1:10:22 PM PST by highlander_UW (Democrats used to be just the party of corruption, now they are the party of treason as well)
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To: Sub-Driver


“Our system worked.”

24 posted on 12/27/2009 1:13:52 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: F15Eagle


This bull dyke is sooo ugly she'd make Quasimodo go LIMP!!
25 posted on 12/27/2009 1:13:52 PM PST by az.b1bbomberfxr
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To: Sub-Driver

Home Land security and its derivations are nothing but a tragedy in the order of a police state, in which the threat is deemed inward and staged against the citizenry; when in reality the threat is outward, as a war waged upon the western world by those supporting a through back dogma of the 7th century for the unwashed; of course the political class and masters of schmart will be exempt.


26 posted on 12/27/2009 1:15:03 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: FlyVet

They are holding her in reseve to blame when the next 911 occurs. Blame anything and everything but Obonzo.


27 posted on 12/27/2009 1:16:34 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Thank You Rush

Well he can say whatever he wants but just a few months back they were talking about abolishing the no fly list IIRC so this is all on their shoulders because of how they have relaxed everything. Remember there is no war on terror now only man made disasters!


28 posted on 12/27/2009 1:16:45 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Sub-Driver

according to AZCentral (az republic) two men (ethnicity unknown) were detained last night after a flight to Phx from Orlando. Passengers reported the two acting suspicious

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/12/27/20091227usairways1228.html


29 posted on 12/27/2009 1:18:49 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: highlander_UW

I just wrote a paper on the subject of public choice and bureaucratic dysfunction. though there can be ideologically-driven organizations that put an emphasis on “results” (like killing dissidents, bringing the economy under their full control) what you tend to have in Western societies is the continued persistence of bureaucratic group loyalty and self-interest (in the form not only of budget but power and status.)

We try to explain dysfunction in a number of ways but, in reality, bureaucratic actors insulated from market/private pressures and thus their incompetence or malfeasance is never penalized, thus never spurring significant reform (which is a continuous process—there can be no ONE great reform that works forever for any organization)or new modes of thought or organizational structure to deal with the agency’s PURPORTED mission.

Occasionally, fulfilling certain objectives related to the mission can enhance the group’s status or budget, and therefore, they will pursue that objective. But generally, they are interested in avoiding risk and protecting the gravy train, and projecting competence. Appearing competence is not only vital for the org’s success (in existing, not in meeting it’s mission) but is important to the self-image of the various technocrats and appointees who infest the halls of power.


30 posted on 12/27/2009 1:19:17 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: jocon307
"Two terrorists attacks on US soil since Mr. Empty Suit was elected Our Pres. TWO! 2! "

Noooo, how about THREE! The two recruiters that were shot in ARK. One died. Remember?

31 posted on 12/27/2009 1:20:00 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: Thank You Rush

What has Napolitano been doing all this time if not reviewing the security procedures of this country?

**She’s one of the “Top 20 DC singles”. She’s busy dating. /s


32 posted on 12/27/2009 1:20:09 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: FlyVet

Amen.


33 posted on 12/27/2009 1:20:46 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: Tawiskaro

You made her look more attractive in that picture.


34 posted on 12/27/2009 1:22:07 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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I’m not a Goldberg fan but he hit the nailhead (my invented term) this time. Heckuva job there Nappy!


35 posted on 12/27/2009 1:24:30 PM PST by KarinG1 (They should put the terror watch list online so we'd know who to drag out and feed to the gators.)
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To: machogirl

“You made her look more attractive in that picture.”

Bizarre, but true.


36 posted on 12/27/2009 1:28:12 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: Sub-Driver

Janet Napolitano is a national embarrassment. She might do ok as a kindergarden teacher, but she’s definitely been way outside her pay grade for a *long* time.


37 posted on 12/27/2009 1:29:03 PM PST by The Duke (Duncan Hunter = Ronald Reagan on steroids!)
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To: Sub-Driver; devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP
 


38 posted on 12/27/2009 1:39:01 PM PST by potlatch (~~ COGITO ERGO SUM~~)
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To: Skywalk

I give your paper a B+


39 posted on 12/27/2009 1:43:08 PM PST by Krankor
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To: jersey117

“She had no business in that position to begin with. The entire administration is totally inept.”

I beg to differ. Most are inept, but some a corrupt. Both are serious problems for America, but we should not mistake the fact that some are terribly competent at being corrupt.


40 posted on 12/27/2009 1:43:11 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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To: Sub-Driver
If the White House wants to assure people that it takes the war on terror seriously (a term Robert Gibbs used this morning by the way), they could start by firing this patently unqualified hack.

Patently unqualified hack... I like it. Send her back to doing something she's more qualified for, like delivering newspapers.

41 posted on 12/27/2009 1:43:13 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Krankor

haha!


42 posted on 12/27/2009 1:52:18 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: potlatch

43 posted on 12/27/2009 1:52:51 PM PST by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . woodpile alert - "My muslim faith....." - "Kobe" Osama . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: machogirl

I was striving for more toad-like. Alas.


44 posted on 12/27/2009 1:53:29 PM PST by Tawiskaro
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To: machogirl
Good for the passengers! You can BET they automatically profiled!!!
45 posted on 12/27/2009 1:53:40 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: Sub-Driver

Napolitano has a habit of arguing that DHS is a first responder outfit. Its mission is to deal with “man-caused-disasters” afer they occur. It appears she really believes it.


I agree she has this habit.

So Obama who is responsible???????


46 posted on 12/27/2009 1:56:57 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: devolve

Just ‘wafted’ around, huh?


47 posted on 12/27/2009 2:00:50 PM PST by potlatch (~~ COGITO ERGO SUM~~)
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To: Sub-Driver


48 posted on 12/27/2009 2:05:10 PM PST by JustPiper (Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. ~ML King)
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To: Sub-Driver

I wonder how the Kenyan’s round of golf was today.


49 posted on 12/27/2009 2:11:17 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: az.b1bbomberfxr

“This bull dyke is sooo ugly she’d make Quasimodo go LIMP!!”

I think it’s a reflection of the real ugly on the inside.


50 posted on 12/27/2009 2:17:45 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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