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Miles-traveled tax being scrutinized (Texas)
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 12/28/2009 | Peggy Fikac - Express-News

Posted on 12/28/2009 12:04:12 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

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And Government Motors would be required to turn over the mileage numbers from all GM cars equipped with OnStar.

And then the congress could pass a law requiring all cars to be sold with OnStar and requiring people to pay the yearly subscription fee, just like they want to require everyone to buy health insurance.


21 posted on 12/28/2009 12:37:53 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: is_is
"instead of adding a new bureaucracy"

You miss the point. The whole idea is to increase the bureaucracies. It's a circle jerk. Bureaucracy creates more bureaucracy - which votes Democrat - which wants more tax money - which means more bureaucracy - which creates more Democrats - which need more tax money - and so on ...

22 posted on 12/28/2009 12:38:10 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Responsibility2nd

like the e-pass only exits which are UNOFFICIALLY supposed to keep the “wrong people” out of the more affluent neighborhoods and developments?


23 posted on 12/28/2009 12:38:38 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is nothing. Wait until Stage Two if the GW ponzi scheme gets approved.

Everyone will be required to wear a pedometer, and will be taxed for their movement, in respect to the amount of C02 they exhale.


24 posted on 12/28/2009 12:40:01 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: is_is
why not increase it instead of adding a new bureaucracy?

Obama promised to add new jobs. Now you know where.

25 posted on 12/28/2009 12:42:37 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: mo

They consider gasoline tax to be a sin tax — tax you for harming the environment. Unfortunately for them, it worked somewhat, and people are driving more efficient cars. Less gas used, less tax collected. The same thing is happening with punitive cigarette taxes across the country to fund pet projects. People stop smoking and the programs have no more money.

They don’t want to raise the gas tax since that would make people mad. So they’re thinking about an alternative tax.


26 posted on 12/28/2009 12:45:11 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: mo

how do you collect gasoline taxes on an electric car?

or a waste grease converted diesel engine?


27 posted on 12/28/2009 12:46:01 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: mo
Is’nt there already a gasoline tax for this purpose?

Yes, and for a group that claims to be concerned with the environment, this would seem to be a step backwards. Tax based on miles travelled rather than fuel used? Duh!? Then driving 100 mi in a Prius or an H2 would be taxed the same, yet the fuel used and "carbon footprint" would be radically different. For an administration playing the environment card, this would be stupid. They should be encouraging (but not mandating) more fuel efficient means of transportation.

My guess is this would end up as an additional tax, not a replacement for the fuel tax.

28 posted on 12/28/2009 12:46:43 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

They are currently testing pay by mile in Oregon. They’re going to put transponders on your car and you will be billed by the mile. This way they can know where you are at all times. As mentioned by others when you buy gas you are essentially paying by the mile. The fees from this program help finance the cost of the equipment.

The interface is built in new cars. GPS and the car’s computer will give your location. OnStar is an implementation of this.

By controlling your car they can just turn it off if they want. Add this data to your credit card purchases, face scanning cameras, red light cameras, the Keyhole satellite surveillance program and lots more they will know where you are every few minutes or so. When they want you they can just come and snatch you anytime they want.

Just more fascist New World Order takeover.


29 posted on 12/28/2009 12:47:19 PM PST by Alex Kida
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To: mo
Is’nt there already a gasoline tax for this purpose?

We pay gasoline taxes for building roads and highways and maintenance
The Feds and most state governments steal these taxes, raid the highway funds and use them on other boondoggles

Obviously any and every mileage tax is a scam to extract more from the citizenry

30 posted on 12/28/2009 12:49:01 PM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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Exactly. This has nothing to do with taxes. It’s all about 24/7 monitoring of you and your automobile by Big Brother.

This is one of the most insidious invasions of privacy imaginable.

Free people need to fight this with a passion.


31 posted on 12/28/2009 12:53:09 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: Responsibility2nd

Must not be real Texans. Real Texans know real Texans don’t like taxes.


32 posted on 12/28/2009 12:54:38 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: mo
Is’nt there already a gasoline tax for this purpose?

Wanna bet that this mileage tax will be + the gas tax?

33 posted on 12/28/2009 12:58:14 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sure. Great idea. Punish people for buying fuel-efficient vehicles with a mileage tax.

What the heck are these people smoking?


34 posted on 12/28/2009 1:04:17 PM PST by Little Ray (Cheney / Norris in 2012!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Of course calling up the volunteer militia and cracking down on illegal immigrants is never considered. And preventing them from using the emergency room for all of their healthcare needs (paid for by the taxpayer) is completely out of the question; as is all preventing them from sucking the taxpayer teat for all kinds of other services and "benefits." No, instead the first thought is to track your location and raise taxes.....

Of course I'm sure under this idea "the poor" will receive a subsidy or rebate because otherwise it would prevent them from owning an Escalade..... Don't bother trying fix other problems or stop wasting money just continue to assault the productive class and increase the size of government.

35 posted on 12/28/2009 1:09:07 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Responsibility2nd
If you don't like gasoline taxes, here's an alternative: a tax on the number of miles you drive in a year.

IMHO, there are plenty of pols right now that are saying "Geez, I just can't decide. Let's do both!"

36 posted on 12/28/2009 1:21:46 PM PST by wbill
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To: Responsibility2nd

hybrids, electric cars, more efficient motors....clearly they don’t see upside potential in a per-gallon fuel tax


37 posted on 12/28/2009 1:28:57 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: FlingWingFlyer; Responsibility2nd

TO get the enviroweenies, how about a $5,000 annual fee for registering an electric, and a $2,500 for a hybrid?

I spend roughly $3,500 a year in gas, so that should be fair enough.

I drive about 30,000 miles a year, in a 4x4 truck that is getting about 18 MPG city.


38 posted on 12/28/2009 1:29:29 PM PST by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: Responsibility2nd; Army Air Corps
Liberals are fleeing the messes they've made in the blue states (being too stupid to recognize the very cause of said messes.)

It appears that Texas has been one of their destinations.

Let's round 'em up and kick 'em back to where they came from.

39 posted on 12/28/2009 1:36:22 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

Doncha bet that Hertz & Enterprize will be happy to hear this?

Also vacations that are based on auto travel.


40 posted on 12/28/2009 2:16:48 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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