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Vt. Judge: Birth Mom Must Give Child To Ex-Partner [Have We Gone Mad?]
Sacramento Bee ^ | December 29, 2009 | Wilson Ring

Posted on 12/29/2009 10:40:34 AM PST by Steelfish

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To: SoldierDad

I do not recall chastising you.


61 posted on 12/29/2009 11:12:05 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: jagusafr

Thank you JagUSAFR. Happy New Year to you.


62 posted on 12/29/2009 11:12:36 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

No, it shows that you made an assumption (wrongly) and ascribed a motive for my comment that doesn’t exist.


63 posted on 12/29/2009 11:13:20 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: papertyger
Typically, the way these couples arrange this is the birth mother is NOT the biological mother. They have the fertilized egg of one partner implanted in the other partner.

I cant imagine what the Almighy must think of that. No wonder they are cursed. Abomination indeed.

64 posted on 12/29/2009 11:14:18 AM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: DJ MacWoW

There is a strong possibility that Janet Jenkins is the actual biological mother and that Lisa Miller simply carried the baby.

If that is the case, the court is in fact granting the biological mother custody and Ms. Miller in nothing more than a kidnapper.


65 posted on 12/29/2009 11:14:18 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: ReneeLynn

‘mommy’ is/was also a nasty lesbian.

don’t feel too sorry for her.

i am still not convinced that she is not USING us to push her radical lesbian agenda.

they are essentially trying to force another state to recognize their civil union.


66 posted on 12/29/2009 11:14:35 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: DoughtyOne; TexasCajun
In many other articles on this subject, the Vermont lesbo Jenkings, was forcing the 7 year old girl to bathe naked with her, and to be there in the home when other lesbian partners would come to spend the weekend with Jenkins while the 7 year old girl was there. It appears there was evidence of sexual abuse, and the 7 year old girl would return home to Miller, with bed wetting & nightmares after being forced to spend weekends at the lezzie Jenkins home in Vermont, unsupervised.

Miller is now a born again Christian, and that is the reason that Jenkins is furious at her. And by the way, I actually think it was civil union and not a marriage.

This is a gross injustice & travesty. The courts are doing all they can to legitimize the homo/lesbian agenda and to force it down out our throats, and most importantly to destroy a 7 year old girl in the process.

The Virginia Supreme Court, ruled incredibly that the Vermont Court decision held sway & takes precedence over the Virginia court.

Our country is truly gone beserk, with the liberal dumb ass courts & dumb ass liberal politicians doing everything they can to destroy our country and our foundations of Christian, patriotic values & principles. I hope the mother realizes that the politically beserk courts will do all they can to promote the homosexual/lesbian agenda, and that she along with her daughter need to disappear & go into hiding.

67 posted on 12/29/2009 11:14:38 AM PST by rcrngroup
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To: SoldierDad

Your lack of compassion for this child says a great deal about you. So does your lack of reasoning. Because other children suffer, this one means nothing. Disheartening coming from a professed conservative.


68 posted on 12/29/2009 11:15:23 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: WayneS

I misunderstood your comment. Thus, I apologize. I also agree that the child is a victim of the idiocy of these women and the judge.


69 posted on 12/29/2009 11:15:32 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: trumandogz; papertyger
Typically, the way these couples arrange this is the birth mother is NOT the biological mother. They have the fertilized egg of one partner implanted in the other partner.

If that is indeed the case, there are a whole lot of Freepers on this thread who are making a good argument that the child should be with her "Biological" Mother, Ms. Miller.

It is not the case. Ms. Miller was artificially inseminated, not IVF'd. I think you meant to say 'Ms. Jenkins' in your final sentence.

70 posted on 12/29/2009 11:16:01 AM PST by nina0113
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m only referencing what was presented here. If there are other facts I’m not aware of, my perception could change.

What I tried to do is explain why the court ruled as it did.

Look, even if the non-custodial parent does something wrong, it’s the court that has to make the determination considering future visitation. You can’t just run off, even if you have good reason.

If you do, you’ll be putting the child at risk by validating a decision to give full custody to the parent you think is doing them wrong... not a good idea at all.


71 posted on 12/29/2009 11:16:21 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: trumandogz

You’re making assumptions.


72 posted on 12/29/2009 11:16:26 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Soothesayer9

Exactly right. So now the guy the wife thought was a beast has full custody. What a self-defeating thing to do, not showing up or running off against the court’s directive.


73 posted on 12/29/2009 11:17:43 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

You need more info on the case. See post 67.


74 posted on 12/29/2009 11:18:01 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: New Yawk Minute
From the story...she already did:

In the Dec. 22 order denying Miller's request to delay the transfer of Isabella, Cohen wrote: "It appears that Ms. Miller has ceased contact with her attorneys and disappeared with the minor child."

75 posted on 12/29/2009 11:18:46 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: OldDeckHand; 1_Rain_Drop
Read my post #67. Yes, the little girl was being abused sexually by the Vermont lesbo Jenkins, and the courts (neither Virginia nor Vermont) care, as along as they are promoting the home/lesian agenda.
76 posted on 12/29/2009 11:18:46 AM PST by rcrngroup
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To: DJ MacWoW

You, yet again, ascribe to me something from your assumption taken from my disdain towards these women (not to mention the idiot judge in the case). You read too much into my original comment. You need to understand about ass u me (making an ass out of you and me) - that’s the result of making assumptions.


77 posted on 12/29/2009 11:18:56 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: OldDeckHand; 1_Rain_Drop
Read my post #67. Yes, the little girl was being abused sexually by the Vermont lesbo Jenkins, and the courts (neither Virginia nor Vermont) DON'T care, as along as they are promoting the home/lesian agenda.
78 posted on 12/29/2009 11:19:35 AM PST by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup

“I think (and hope & pray) that Miller will just disappear with her child...”

And will you be hoping and praying for Ms. Miller when she is doing a 20 year stretch in a federal pen for kidnaping?


79 posted on 12/29/2009 11:19:53 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: rcrngroup

“I think (and hope & pray) that Miller will just disappear with her child...”

And will you be hoping and praying for Ms. Miller when she is doing a 20 year stretch in a federal pen for kidnaping?


80 posted on 12/29/2009 11:20:41 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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