Skip to comments.New Research: Why Never Spanking Might Be Worse for Kids Than Spanking Them
Posted on 12/31/2009 9:19:58 AM PST by Arec Barrwin
New Research: Why Never Spanking Might Be Worse for Kids Than Spanking Them
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:00 AM By Po Bronson
In NurtureShock, we described some extensive cross-ethnic and international research on spanking by Drs. Jennifer Lansford and Ken Dodge.
Their data suggested that if a culture views spanking as the normal consequence for bad behavior, kids arent damaged by its occasional use.
To explain this shocker, the scholars suggested that in cultures or communities where spanking is common, parents are less agitated when administering spankings. Spanking almost never when combined with losing your temper can be worse than spanking frequently.*
But what about the third option: not spanking them at all?
Unfortunately, theres been little study of this, because children whove never been spanked arent easy to find. Most kids receive physical discipline at least once in their life. But times are changing, and parents today have numerous alternatives to spanking. The result is that kids are spanked less often overall, and kids whove never been spanked are becoming a bigger slice of the pie in long-term population studies.
(Excerpt) Read more at blog.newsweek.com ...
I only got the belt twice as a kid. Both times, I had it coming in spades ;-)
A shocker only to liberal idiots who read Newsweak (sic).
You should spank your children every day. You may not know what they’ve done... but they do...
Willful disobedience and behavior that endangers oneself or others are reasons to seriously consider the spanking option.
Newsweek is atrocious, isn’t it? My far left sibling reads it religiously, and then parrots it.
The comments at the bottom of the article reveal the shock and anger of their regular viewers; i.e. “child buttock battering”. Egad.
Barney Frank is busy mixing up some batter as we speak...
I was only spanked once, and boy did I never talk back to my mom ever again. Dad left his print on my back side.
I wish I could recall some of my brother's witty lines to them. (It was a treat to do a ride-along with him wired up with a mic.)
From my perspective, it put the parent in a corner...Dumb, dumb, dumb....
Every kid has a price...find out what it is...
Gad...I miss my Pa.
Spare the rod, spoil the child.
It is a good idea to tell them what action(s) resulted in the discipline too. Otherwise they’ll just think they got a whoopin’ because Mommy/Daddy was in a bad mood/doesn’t like them/or is just likes tanning their hyde for no good reason.
There is a huge difference in physical abuse and corrective, physical discipline. The libs and RINOs and wimpy conservatives who can’t figure out the difference, well, there’s the real problem right there. Common sense on the issue is gone for these folks.
It also illustrates that you can’t use a one-size-fits-all when it comes to disciplining children. Talking, time outs, etc just will not cut it with some people.
Looking for New Research that irrefutably proves spanking punk lib senators and representatives does some good.
YAWN.. So what else is new? What about “spare the rod and spoil the child” did Dr. Benjamin Spock not understand?
I’ve never spanked either of my children (ages 15 and 12). Things aren’t going too badly.
I didn’t need “new research”, I relied on the 5,000 years of recorded history and spanked the daylights out of my kids. It was fun, and believe it or not, they appreciate it now (and even then, which surprised me). Obviously, I only went to the level needed to get some tears flowing.
Oddly enough, now that I think about it I don’t know how to spank a child. I mean, that sounds stupid because it would seem elementary, but is it just one big flat smack on the rear, is it five, is it with a paddle or your hand. I need a “Spanking For Dummies” book. And please, no puns.
I always thought that kids was the reason for the invention of Duct Tape.
I guess spanking was only bad when Bush was president...
“spanking punk lib senators and representatives does some good.”
It won’t do any good- they PAY for their spankings;)
I don’t know about spanking, but I see the logic in why Alligators eat their young.
My memory is that I never spanked my kids, but I did discipline them. They all turned out great. None of them ever gave me—or anyone else—any serious grief. To check my memory I asked my oldest son on Christmas day if he ever remembered being spanked. He laughed and said he never remembered being spanked, but he did remember being “thunked” a few times—my knuckle on his head—not enough to make him cry, but enough to get his clear attention. I had forgotten all about that. I guess I did resort to physical force in disciplining my kids.
My other two sis-in-laws disciplined their kids with the needed "attention getters" applied to the posterior, and they turned out mostly normal---pretty good kids.
Actually, the (biblically based) advice I’ve gotten was to spank them for any “first time” offense, because it is likely NOT the “first time”, just the first time you caught them.
I miss mine as well.
If you are angry when you use the rod of chastisement, you’re doing it wrong...
cool off, calmly explain why they are being punished, and then chastise as appropriate.
Spanking definitely worked on me. It taught me in no uncertain terms that there were boundaries I dared not cross, and if I did, pain would follow.
I hated it then, but as I look back now, I understand why my Parents spanked me. I believe it made me a better person.
“You better duck, you know you need it” was a joke around our house. I’d never hit them but I’d bring my hand up real quick next to them and they would wince, hence the phrase.
Like most leftists, Dr Spock considers himself to be smarter than God.
“you will be like God, knowing good and evil”
you can consider yourself to be God, deciding what is good and evil, right and wrong, for yourself.
Thanks. That was my first big laugh all day.
“silence is golden, but duct tape is silver”
Yep, I deserved every spank I got, and even once a punch in the face for insulting my old man. I *really* respected him after that.
My ex Brother in Law spared the rod, now he’s emptying his wallet on lawyers to keep his little darling from doing serious time for multiple, repeat offenses.
Still not allowing the kid to face the consequenses of his actions.
My dad had a board with a set of holes drilled in it....One whack was usually enough.
Exactly, as a father of six, one-size-fits-all does not work
In my house there were three rules that guaranteed a quick corrective, physical discipline
2. Hitting sibling out of anger
3. Temper tantrum (passive rebellion)
What is this?
More words of wisdom from Captain Obvious?
Depends on how it is done. I told my kids to think about what they had done and why it was wrong while in time out, then they had to tell me what they concluded and apologize to the offended person before I would let them out. Just putting them in time out accomplishes nothing.
I grew up during that time, and heard many people comment on the “new” way of rasing “better” children. If anyone had stopped to think about it, the current generation at that time had survived the great depression, won World War II, and built the largest free market economy in history. What was wrong with how they were raised? Turned out pretty good in my opinion.
Unfortunately, because this moron had “Dr.” in his name, the premise was accepted that there was something “wrong” with how kids were being raised, and this “doctor” had the answer.
Just about 50 years later, you only have to walk down the street to figure out who was correct!
start spanking at an early age....never hurt any child....i even signed the form to spank my kids in school if they got out of hand...(they never did) but i wanted my kids to know i had signed it to put the fear into them....
Oh you can find kids who have never been spanked everywhere.
Spoiled rotten thinking it has got to be their way or no way.
Using drugs, speeding, cheating in school, and cheating in the workplace.
Lying was also the number one spanking offense in our household and all of the boys knew it.
>you consideryourself to be God, deciding what is good and evil, right or wrong, for yourself.<
So that’s what makes Liberals the way they are - no discipline when young, getting away with “outsmarting” their parents, who should have known better. And now the rest of us have to sit here and take it!
>> Yep, I deserved every spank I got, and even once a punch in the face for insulting my old man.
Once (during my personal Age of Infinite Wisdom, c. age 16) I said something snotty and profane to my mother at the dinner table.
My Dad was up out of his chair so quick and with such force that he threw the chair back and broke one of its legs. About a millisecond later came his (thankfully open) hand right square across my face.
That was the only time he ever hit me in the face. I had no idea he could move so quick. I deserved every bit of it. I was lucky he didn’t hit me even harder.
Both of my parents very occasionally practiced corporal punishment, essentially all of it before age ten. I can’t ever recall a time when it was excessive or when I didn’t deserve it.
I also can’t ever recall a time when either of my parents acted counter to what they considered my best interests. Of course, they and I disagreed about what was in my best interests, but everything they did, they did for us kids.
They were everyday heroes. Boy, do I miss them.
It is a good idea to tell them what action(s) resulted in the discipline too.
Exactly. Fanning the behind merely because a child made a mistake is child abuse. Fanning the behind over obvious misbehaviour is not. Too many parents don't know the difference.
And I emphasise fanning the behind. The minute a parent picks up a weapon, any weapon, other than their hand, that parent's guilty of child abuse.
There are spankings, . amd there are beatings One is for the good of the child, and the other is a way to vent the parent’s anger. I am sorry you were punched in the face. However, you may have even deserved that, for all I know. :)
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