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Court upholds police pointing gun at lawful carrier
Atlanta Gun Rights Examiner ^ | December 31, 2009 | Ed Stone

Posted on 12/31/2009 9:46:30 AM PST by Still Thinking

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To: Still Thinking

So, the officer felt threatened or privileged? Not really following you.
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His question was clear to me ... I see tigers at the zoo but I don’t feel threatened by them and I wouldn’t feel threatened if I saw a glimpse of a gun being carried by someone that did not appear to be up to something.


41 posted on 12/31/2009 2:01:24 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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[forehead slap] Obviously the "threatened" part was understandable. It was the "privileged" part that was giving me trouble. The only thing I could think he meant to ask was if the officer felt privileged to be able to jump out of his car and accost the guy, but as I typed the reply, I'm thinking he meant "entitled" or "superior", as if only cops should be allowed to go armed. If so, I don't care HOW they guy feels so long as he only enforces laws that are actually on the books.
42 posted on 12/31/2009 2:16:39 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Jack Hammer

Good for the cop. A real man can handle himself without a gun. If the lawyer is too afraid to go out without a weapon he is either a punk or a pansy.


43 posted on 12/31/2009 2:17:50 PM PST by awake-n-angry
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To: awake-n-angry
Good for the cop. A real man can handle himself without a gun. If the lawyer is too afraid to go out without a weapon he is either a punk or a pansy.

Then what about the cop?

44 posted on 12/31/2009 2:20:23 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: TXnMA

So? The incident occured in MA and the news source is out of GA. Did you even bother to read the article?

Texas may not honor a person’s right to carry as they choose but they are in the minority of states.


45 posted on 12/31/2009 2:45:59 PM PST by Dayman (My 1919a4 is named Charlotte. When I light her up she has the voice of an angel.)
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To: Still Thinking
Officer Stern reasoned that because he could not confirm the "facially valid" license to carry, he would not permit the attorney to carry.

Hmm, that puzzles me.

In Michigan a CPL (concealed pistol license) is in the system along with drivers license and plate registration. Therefore, if a cop 'lights up' and pulls over a vehicle he knows if the registered owner has a CPL just by running the plates.

Now, in this instance, the cop was in his cruiser when he spotted the citizen. Why couldn't he verify the concealed carry license along with the drivers license (valid state ID) and case closed?

Do not all states have this interchange of information or ability of officers to verify information from within their vehicles?

46 posted on 12/31/2009 2:49:02 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: varon

Indiana does.


47 posted on 12/31/2009 2:52:26 PM PST by CholeraJoe (My baloney has a first name, it's B-A-R-A-K. My baloney has a second name, it's O-B-A-M-A)
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To: Dayman
There is no law requiring the gun be concealed. Carry is carry.

I have a concealed carry permit from my state.

My state requires you to carry your firearm concealed. If it bulges out but is covered by clothing that is OK.

I don't know where you get the idea that the law is anything that you say it is. Good luck with that.

48 posted on 12/31/2009 3:00:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Still Thinking; All
The State involved is Massachusetts. Important facts that are in the whole story when you read it are:

The officer confirmed that the lawyer had a facially valid concealed carry permit, then impounded the firearm, and left the permit holder defenseless in a high crime area after telling the lawyer that he was the only one allowed to have a firearm in his beat.

The court upheld this insane bit of illogic by saying that the officer had no way to immediately check the records to see if the permit was valid (presumably it might have been revoked, I suppose. This makes no sense to me, because if the officer thought the permit was not valid, why would he have left the lawyer without arresting him?

This is a truly bad court decision, but what do you expect from the New England States.

49 posted on 12/31/2009 3:17:18 PM PST by marktwain
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Georgia is a licensed open carry state

http://www.opencarry.org/ga.html

Best regards,

50 posted on 12/31/2009 6:42:56 PM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus

I was talking about my state.

You were talking out your exit orifice.


51 posted on 12/31/2009 7:16:24 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Well Happy New Year to you too!

Perhaps "your state" will one day once again understand and re-establish the glories of the Constitution!

52 posted on 01/01/2010 6:22:22 AM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Only a minority of states require concealment. You live in one of the oppressive ones that do which has nothing to do with anything in this article. Neither the state this article is pulished in or where the incident took place in require a firearm to be concealed.


53 posted on 01/01/2010 7:05:14 AM PST by Dayman (My 1919a4 is named Charlotte. When I light her up she has the voice of an angel.)
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To: bamahead

ping (a few days late)


54 posted on 01/02/2010 11:07:43 AM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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