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To: 4rcane

If this is real, let’s count the ways he is out of touch. 20 million illegal residents and their families are NOT picking lettuce.

Even in NJ and PA, there are huge communities of illegals. They are working everywhere, in the public schools, libraries, in restaurant kitchens, construction, everywhere.

These are jobs Americans DID do and jobs they need. Americans are out of work and need these jobs.


7 posted on 12/31/2009 10:11:40 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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To: Williams
These are jobs Americans DID do and jobs they need. Americans are out of work and need these jobs.

In the past, many of these jobs were done by
TEENAGERS! Think back to your own youth. Where did
you learn how to work? From school? Or your first boss?
School can flunk you or expel you; but most kids don't see
any problem with either of those outcomes. A boss can fire
you. That is an outcome that even the most rebellious teen
can understand. Getting fired tends to cut into the cashflow.

These are the jobs that we are going to miss the most.
Our kids need to learn the value of work, and fast food or some
other type of entry-level work is the place to learn about getting
to work on time, doing what you're told, etc.
Your first job out of college is not the place to learn how to work.

This is what we are losing. Our future.
30 posted on 12/31/2009 10:30:23 PM PST by tpmintx (Liberalism: Envy, backed up by governmental authority. (I'm green; are you?))
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To: Williams
If this is real, let’s count the ways he is out of touch. 20 million illegal residents and their families are NOT picking lettuce.

Less than 5% of illegal aliens are employed in the ag industry throughout the ENTIRE U.S.

55 posted on 12/31/2009 11:18:53 PM PST by TigersEye (Tar & feathers! Pitchforks and torches! ... Get some while supplies last.)
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To: Williams; All
Oh that it were only 20 million instead of double that,but that's another argument and I can make it if challenged.

What ever happened to obeying the law?

The illegals think we are stupid for letting them in over and over and over!! Many game the system, and the true cost of obamacare is with the illegals, their offspring and those who game the system. Take that out and there is no health care crisis if there ever was!

When you consider crime,the fact that we now let in lettuce pickers instead of rocket scientists from the orient, the costs, and many other variables of the illegal issue you have to be crazy to advocate amnesty.

Chat with someone who really knows the immigration issue inside out and those promoting it always lose the argument and just as we have just seen on c-spam only minutes ago. The argument usually dissolves into well he's just racist,he hates third worlders,and that's because they have no argument!

The left has,with the aide of the DBM created a situation where if you have an opinion on race, immigration, etc. etc. you are a racist simply by voicing your opinion, Fascism mandates everyone move in lock step. That's what they want. It shows over and over and over.

Of course with the rat/commies it's all about staying in office, buying more votes and the slow but sure(not so slow now) destruction of free markets and the country as we know it.

Bring in enough illegals that have no plans whatsoever to be part of the melting pot,who want only to create a new "Mexico",have sharia law,create another third world country on our shores, right here in the US, get them voting and you have a built-in constituency forever. If they reproduce at 10X the rate of Conservatives we are a minority in no time at all.

76 posted on 01/01/2010 6:01:42 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Williams
Here in Texas we are up to our eyeballs in illegal aliens. They are probably about 1/6 of the entire population and the overwhelming majority in some places. For instance in Dallas there are no fields of lettuce, no vast expanses of cotton, corn, grapes, apples, peaches, etc. So the illegals that are here are doing what exactly?

They have completely flooded the construction industry. I used to be a licensed Journeyman commercial electrician… not any more. Can’t speak Spanish.

Nearly ALL of the fast food joints are staffed totally illegals with one “front voice” (English speaker) per shift. Now days that has been reduced to a sort of slurry pidgin-English as they no longer care about losing the few remaining actual American customers that might wander in.

Construction, restaurants, custodial, gas stations, tire stores, supermarkets, grocery stores, department stores etc., this place is flooded with the grinning little illegal and most of the new ones come here with the full knowledge that they need not ever speak a work of English.

And of course, according to Mr. McCain, no American Citizen would ever work in a restaurant or gas station, build a house or office building, stock the dairy section or PICK LETTUCE, not even for $50.00 an hour!

Yean right. I understand you now, little Johnny.

88 posted on 01/01/2010 7:49:38 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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