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1 posted on 01/01/2010 2:26:47 PM PST by FromLori
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2 posted on 01/01/2010 2:30:04 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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“A cynic could be temped to say that effectively the number of people employed by the government is double what is disclosed. A yet bigger cynic could claim that America is now the biggest socialist state in the world. Both cynics would not necessarily be wrong.”

You can take THAT to the bank. Or the Unemployment Office. Your call. ;)


3 posted on 01/01/2010 2:34:01 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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Well, unemployment insurance is paid out of state unemployment funds, which are funded through a payroll tax on employers. It is only when they run out of money that they need to borrow from the Treasury.

That has happened a lot lately, as more and more state funds run out of money. They have also raised payroll taxes a lot.


4 posted on 01/01/2010 2:36:05 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: FromLori
Interesting number from the site:

Medicare income - $1.7 billion

Medicare outflow - $45.2 billion

Any Congress wants to EXPAND Medicare??

5 posted on 01/01/2010 2:41:26 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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>> “the government could be underrepresenting employment data by up to 32%! “

10% / 0.68 = 14.7%


9 posted on 01/01/2010 2:55:32 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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Man on the street guesstimate from The Heavy Equipment Guy?

About 20%, or one in five. Much higher among black folks here.

Government figures are as phony as a three-dollar bill... and worth about as much, as well.


11 posted on 01/01/2010 3:28:28 PM PST by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: FromLori

The real trauma is going to come gradually, because unemployment is cumulative. That is, when people are newly unemployed, they have assets to live off for a while. But as time goes by, things keep getting incrementally worse.

Unemployment compensation and other aid stretches out this decline, but neither stops it, nor is enough to live on. It is a slow starvation of both your resources and your emotions, a wasting process.

But eventually something will happen, and millions of people will have become so weakened over time, that it will hit them all at once. What they had tolerated for so long will quickly become intolerable.

Politically, right then, anyone who promises them a roof over their head and food will get their vote. It will be a very dangerous time, and level heads need to be prepared to offer them enough aid to survive, or demagogues will do so, to the despair of all of us.


13 posted on 01/01/2010 3:44:38 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Is The Government Misrepresenting Unemployment By 32%?

It matters not what the real numbers are. What matters is who does the counting (or accounting?).
16 posted on 01/01/2010 4:06:56 PM PST by adorno
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To: FromLori; blam

Mort Kondracke made a comment the other day, that the economy would have to grow 250,000 jobs a month for five years just to get back to where we were in late 2007, and we are nowhere near to growing that many jobs, nor is there any indication that there will be any time soon, either.

I find it very interesting that these numbers started to diverge in December 2008...go figure!


22 posted on 01/01/2010 6:14:05 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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