Health bill would leave millions uninsured (but criminalize them for not having insurance)

msnbc ^ | 1/2/2010 | Perry Bacon Jr. /WP

[tobyhill]

Even as Democrats seek the biggest expansion of health coverage in decades, as many as 23 million people could still be without insurance by 2018, illustrating the complexity of achieving the long-held Democratic goal of universal health care.

The legislation that the Senate passed Christmas Eve, which is expected to resemble closely the final bill that is hashed out between the House and Senate over the next month, would leave about 8 percent of the population under age 65 without health insurance, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. It would extend insurance to 31 million of an estimated 54 million who would have no coverage without the legislation.

"The impact of the reform overall is that we can focus more on care and less on how we pay for the uninsured, but the problem is still going to be there," said Chip Kahn, president of the Federation of American Hospitals, a lobbying group that has endorsed the Democratic plan.

[goldstategop]

I have no intention of paying their fine or buying their fascist insurance policy. GO AHEAD: MAKE MY DAY!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

[tobyhill]

It doesn’t pass constitutional muster. We won’t even get to 2014 before before the courts strike this down.

[thethirddegree]

I expect it to be repealed after we retake Congress later this year.

[tobyhill]

Once this becomes law the only chance of getting it stopped is either in court or 2/3rd the congress against it because Obama would veto any legislation to stop it and it takes 2/3rds to override a presidential veto.

Our best bet is to make sure this doesn't become law and if it does, immediately file an injunction in court pending constitutional review by the courts.

[Varsity Flight]

+++++ The impact of the reform overall is that we can focus more on care and less on how we pay for the uninsured ++++

And what kind of care would that be? The kind of care that we can trust in Government-Insurance Group collusion? The kind of care that takes over 2000 pages to decifer? The kind of care we can trust coming from a group of legislators responsible for “bank” bail out-payoffs, auto bailouts, attempted “climate care” deals, military in-decision, “stimulus funds” to favored groups, lobby pay-offs, multi-trillion dollar deficits?

[danielmryan]

"This is in part because their ranks would include many who choose not to get health insurance, even though they can afford it — such as some healthy people under 30, who have little effect on rising health-care costs because they rarely go to the doctor."

Interesting. Now that the WashPo reporter thinks ObamaCare's in the bag, some contra-message truth slips out.

[ElenaM]

We said the same thing about campaign finance “reform.” I don’t trust the courts to uphold our Constitution.

[danamco]

Even as Democrats seek the biggest expansion of health coverage in decades, as many as 23 million people could still be without insurance by 2018

Had they been included, maybe the cost would have been in the range of thirteen (13) zeros instead of now twelve (12)???

[stevie_d_64]

Yeah, but to get the Constitutional challenge started, it will have to be passed, once inacted the taxes to feed this behemoth willbe bled out from us immediately...

And I seriously doubt that any challenge will stop any feduciary function of this anytime soon...

Much less, any fantasy legislative effort to even broach the subject of reversing this plan...

We were screwed before he uttered “...so help me allah.”

[yongin]

We thought Campaign Finance Reform wouldn’t pass muster with the High Court.

[GailA]

Is this the illegal count along with their relatives who will be flooding even faster over our boarders once the 12 mil who are here are legalized?

[FreedBird]

Ohbomber will give out “Get out of Jail Free” cards to buy votes for his re-election. He will payoff the MSM to buy influence and give Dems. jobs who lose their re-election bids due to his big spending programs.

[Ciexyz]

What kind of healthcare?

The kind of healthcare comparable to the Postal Service service - the kind that removed the automatic stamp machines from the lobby of my local post office and sent them to a PO ten to fifteen minutes drive in the other direction. The kind that sent me a Postal Service postcard touting their automatic stamp machines in FOUR lobbies in my entire suburban area - each about a ten minute drive from my PO that USED TO have it in the lobby.

Some official in the PO probably got a BIG BONUS for cutting costs by doing that.

[Munz]

the article has been removed :-(