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2010 Will Be Worse (The Obama Depression)
American Thinker ^ | Monty Pelerin

Posted on 01/03/2010 8:09:36 AM PST by big black dog

The year 2010 is likely to be the pivotal year where pundits stop referring to the recession and begin openly talking about a depression.

Our economic problem is rather simple to describe: There is too much debt relative to income and/or wealth. Below is a single graph that depicts the condition of our economy. It shows total debt of the U.S. as a percentage of GDP from 1870 forward. The debt figure includes all private and public debt. It does not include liabilities associated with unfunded government mandates like Social Security and Medicare. (Note: according to the U.S. trustees of these funds, the present value of the liabilities is about $106 trillion. Including them would boost the ratio below to nearly 1,000%.)

The amount of debt relative to GDP is staggering from a historical perspective. Several points are worth making about the graph:

* The long-term "norm" for the ratio appears to be around 150%. The red lines band the "norm" at 130% and 170%, respectively.

* Other than the two boom periods that commenced in the 1920s and the 1980s, the ratio never exceeded the upper band.

* Each cross resulted in enormous credit-driven booms. The first ended in the Great Depression. The second will produce a similar if not bigger bust (we are merely at the beginning of this event).

* The credit expansion that led to the Great Depression was not nearly as overextended as the current expansion.

* Peak credit occurred after the Depression began. Government spending and the shrinkage in GDP continued to drive the ratio up early in the Depression.

* Since this graph was published, today's ratio has grown to near 380%, about double the level when the U.S. entered the Depression.

* While it appears as though current private borrowing may have peaked, funding enormous government deficits continues to drive the ratio up, as does GDP shrinkage.

No economic theory rationalizes a proper "norm," yet intuitively, we know that such a number exists. Debt must not exceed some percentage of income, or else it cannot be serviced. Equivalent conceptual ratios for individuals and businesses have been used by the banking industry as lending criteria for more than a century. For various reasons, banks neglected these guidelines over the past couple of decades, contributing greatly to the credit bubble.

The government has decided that the cure for too much debt is more debt. This solution cannot work, especially when credit is already so overextended. Income and wealth cannot support present debt levels. Credit will adjust back to the mean, regardless of what the government attempts. Whether this is via orderly payment or via default, the reduction in debt is inevitable.

Ludwig von Mises addressed the limits of credit in The Theory of Money and Credit, originally published in 1912. As he expressed in later work:

There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit [debt] expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit [debt] expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.

In 2009, it was not possible to finance U.S. capital requirements through conventional markets. Only via the Fed's explicit (and surreptitious) Quantitative Easing was the government able to fund its 2009 deficits. Discussing 2009, Zerohedge stated:

There was a huge credit and liquidity crunch, and then there was Quantitative Easing. The last is the Fed's equivalent of band-aiding a zombied and ponzied corpse, better known as the US economy. It worked for a while, but now the zombie is about to go back into critical, followed by comatose, and lastly, undead (and 401(k)-depleting) condition.

Zerohedge estimated that demand (financing) for U.S. fixed-income securities must increase elevenfold in order to fund capital needs in 2010. Continued shrinkage in foreign participation in U.S. fixed-income markets makes that increase impossible.

There are only three possibilities with respect to meeting 2010 funding needs:

* The Fed continues its QE beyond their planned cessation in March 2010.

* The Fed raises interest rates to levels that would attract the capital necessary to fund government operations via conventional credit markets.

* No Fed action is taken. That would cause the government to default on some of its obligations.

None of these alternatives is attractive. The unpalatable choices arise from prior Fed and governmental policies. To avoid recessions over the past fifty years, the government abused and then finally exhausted all reasonable options. After years of mismanagement, the government is in a quandary of its own making from which there is no escape.

All alternatives will be very painful, and none offer the possibility of a traditional recovery. No matter what alternative is chosen, the country cannot avoid a depression. At this point, "do no further harm" should guide policy.

Of the three alternatives, what is best economically is worst politically. This natural conflict between good economics and good politics is not unusual. Economically, the country would be harmed least by implementing alternative 2. From a political standpoint, alternatives 2 and 3 are probably unacceptable. Thus, it is likely that alternative 1 will be tried (again!). It is precisely the continual overuse of this alternative that has led to the current sad state.

Alternative 1 cannot work. It will not avoid a depression. Worse, it will likely result in hyperinflation. Thus, we likely end up with the worst of all worlds. With hyperinflation, money will cease to be a medium of exchange. Markets will cease to work, except on a barter basis. The middle class will be wiped out. Their savings will become worthless along with the dollar. The end will be as Mises warned so many years ago.

The possibility of losing our form of government is a real risk under any of the alternatives. So is civil unrest and strife. All are probably more likely under alternative 1 because of the corrosive effects of high inflation combined with a depression.

Beware the turn of the calendar. Things are going to get interesting, and probably very quickly.


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1 posted on 01/03/2010 8:09:37 AM PST by big black dog
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To: big black dog; FromLori; rabscuttle385; TigerLikesRooster
"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit [debt] expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit [debt] expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."

--Von Mises

2 posted on 01/03/2010 8:13:02 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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3 posted on 01/03/2010 8:13:39 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Travis McGee

I see a chance of improvement in November.


4 posted on 01/03/2010 8:14:00 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: big black dog; 2ndDivisionVet
Posted here too:

2010 Will Be Worse

5 posted on 01/03/2010 8:15:24 AM PST by blam
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To: proxy_user
"Business will turn for the better this month or next, recovering vigorously in the third quarter and end the year substantially above normal."

~~Harvard Economic Society, May 17, 1930

6 posted on 01/03/2010 8:15:27 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
7 posted on 01/03/2010 8:17:22 AM PST by blam
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To: big black dog
Obligatory link to the Ludwig Von Mises Institute.

You can find much good material there including Murray Rothbard's great book: America's Great Depression.

8 posted on 01/03/2010 8:18:01 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Travis McGee

Gerald Celente: greatest depression is here

http://thecomingdepression.net/media/video/gerald-celente-greatest-depression-is-here/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+Thecomingdepressiondotnet+(TheComingDepression.net)


9 posted on 01/03/2010 8:25:08 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: big black dog

The New Depression will lead to The Second American Revolution in my never humble opinion.

Recall that the tipping point of the First American Revolution was the closure of the Port of Boston and other oppressive acts (The Intolerable Acts 1774) by the British government wrecked the colonial economy.

Thus the colonial middle and upper classes were ruined and easily radicalized by the Sons of Liberty. Then the first were fired on Lexington Green April 19, 1775.

I think that 2009 was 1774 redux that saw the enactment of a series of Intolerable Acts by the oppresive Obama Administration that will very likely lead to revolution in 2010.

Perhaps the first shots will be fired on next April 19th?

Stay tuned.


10 posted on 01/03/2010 8:28:10 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: Bon mots

Thanks for posting the link. I used it, reread “Gold and Guns,” and remembered something I’ve never posted. Her it is, only a little off topic:

Direct democracy works well for very small organizations, but *representative* governance works infinitely better for larger groups. What we have is worse than direct democracy, a government working with disdain for the wishes of the majority: with our government *against* us, we have no options but surrender to fascism, or revolution. I’ve made my choice.


11 posted on 01/03/2010 8:44:03 AM PST by JohnQ1 ("(BHO) can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know." - A Lincoln)
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To: big black dog

Let’s not forget that the U.S. didn’t get here overnight, specifically from 20 January 2009 to the current date.

We had eight years of irresponsible Republican spending by an alleged conservative President who had complete control of Congress up until 2006, who in fact never even found his veto pen until that year.

The expansion of the federal government in terms of size, cost and power over the lives of Americans didn’t start with the arrival of Comrade 0bama.


12 posted on 01/03/2010 8:44:09 AM PST by mkjessup (0bama squats to pee.)
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But... but... It's the year we make CONTACT!! ........ with TRUE socialism: record unemployment! record inflation! reparations! record taxes!
13 posted on 01/03/2010 8:45:13 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: big black dog

bump to the top


14 posted on 01/03/2010 8:46:05 AM PST by timestax (CNNLIES..BIG TIME)
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To: mkjessup
I agree. Looking at the graph, Republicans were nearly as responsible as the Democrats. They could not control their appetite for spending!

We need strong fiscal conservatives, if we are going to avoid national slavery, civil war and ultimately a world war.

Grief, I didn't think this would happen until after my children were grown.

15 posted on 01/03/2010 8:54:54 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: Ronbo1948
The Future Of The United States, Systemic Fraud, Corruption And Financial Instability
16 posted on 01/03/2010 8:58:02 AM PST by blam
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To: big black dog

“The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit [debt] expansion, ***or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved***.”

Which happens to be goal of Obama, to end the USA as an independent entity. Crashing the currency serves his goal perfectly. It also justifies his agressively taking of sweeping powers to deal with the “crisis”.


17 posted on 01/03/2010 9:00:53 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: big black dog

“The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit [debt] expansion, ***or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved***.”

Which happens to be goal of Obama, to end the USA as an independent entity. Crashing the currency serves his goal perfectly. It also justifies his agressively taking of sweeping powers to deal with the “crisis”.


18 posted on 01/03/2010 9:01:07 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: FromLori

!Gracias para el linko!


19 posted on 01/03/2010 9:06:20 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“Republicans were nearly as responsible as the Democrats”

And i hate how it sounds like tin-foil hat stuff, but after Reagan, the Repubs have been every bit as willing to submit the USA to international “Authority”. A government we as citizens have no say in. A revolution must happen at the ballot in 2010, or a real one will be the only recourse. And as a man approaching retirement age, with college age kid, it sickens me to think of what that means. But the alternative sickens me more.

That said, Obama is far worse. However, a proper look at Obama shows that he is only the “closer” for the deal that reps and dems have both been building for us for 20 years.


20 posted on 01/03/2010 9:09:19 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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