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Fury over British Muslim cleric's anti-war march threat
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Posted on 01/04/2010 12:07:55 PM PST by UKrepublican

Fury over British Muslim cleric's anti-war march threat London, England (CNN) -- A controversial British Muslim cleric is threatening to stage a march through the town that receives the bodies of British war dead as a protest against the war in Afghanistan, drawing fury and outrage.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: jihadist; muslims; notapeacemovement; proterrorist; protest; thereisnoenglandnow; troops; uk
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To: UKrepublican

My home town is smaller...


21 posted on 01/04/2010 12:53:22 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: UKrepublican
You also said: When you actually reach the point of outrage mosques will be going up in flames

Yep. That's what I said. Further, that would be an indication of true outrage. As it stands a few of you will mutter under your breaths, fewer still will pen letters to the Editor or some inbred Brit politician.

But none of you will actually do anything.

Now were these wogs to try this crap at Arlington in the States I guarantee you there'd be muzzie corpses in the streets.

Guarantee.

22 posted on 01/04/2010 12:56:07 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

Yet you elected Obama and the Democrats and have had open season in your southern border for years.

My country is in a state don’t get me wrong.....but we’re not criminals.

But don’t sit there all high and mighty because it doesn’t wash.

If you think burning down mosques is the solution...fair play to you..not our way of doing things....


23 posted on 01/04/2010 1:04:43 PM PST by UKrepublican
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To: UKrepublican
http://en.wikipededia.org/wiki/mystic,_iowa
24 posted on 01/04/2010 1:04:43 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: UKrepublican
My country is in a state don’t get me wrong.....but we’re not criminals.

Nope, you're wussies most of you.

If you think burning down mosques is the solution.

Eventually it'll be necessary.

25 posted on 01/04/2010 1:11:36 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I like the name! Why the decline in population?


26 posted on 01/04/2010 1:13:51 PM PST by UKrepublican
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To: UKrepublican

Your nation has to stand up to this type of bullying. We will cheer you on. Our turn is coming very soon. I don’t know how long any of us are going to stand for this political correctness. I fear the boiling point is approaching.


27 posted on 01/04/2010 1:18:28 PM PST by mia
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To: UKrepublican

On both sides of the pond we are being steadily pushed against a precipice, its been said that only when we are on the very brink of disaster that we change.

Historically Britain is a leader in world events, their history has roots much deeper than America, I hope with this below ground strength they can set a global example, what they do in the near future will be the pattern of future political events.

With a comatose loyalty challenged boob at the wheel of Americas political machine I must say out loud, we have no leader in the Whitehouse, we have no faith in him, we cannot support him, our nation has no direction.

The worlds ball is in your court England, please show some stiff upper lip.


28 posted on 01/04/2010 1:19:22 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: UKrepublican

Someone needs to immediately be expelled from the UK. Permanently!


29 posted on 01/04/2010 1:21:24 PM PST by rawhide
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To: mia

This march wont go ahead...no permission has even been asked for...the outrage is huge...if it were to go ahead, there would be one hell of a street battle and I would make sure I attended any counter protest, and I’ve never done anything like that before. They won’t let this go ahead.


30 posted on 01/04/2010 1:30:31 PM PST by UKrepublican
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To: UKrepublican
I assume you know that the best coals have high BTUs, low sulfur and low ash.
The Mystic coals have low BTUs, high sulfur and high ash. And the coal seams were rarely thicker than 30-36 inches thick.

I'm a descendant of the Isaac Fuller mentioned in the article.

31 posted on 01/04/2010 1:31:40 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: UKrepublican

God bless all of you. We, the people, must fight the little wars and when the government sees that we won’t take any more of this behavior, they will start to make changes.


32 posted on 01/04/2010 1:38:54 PM PST by mia
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To: mia; UKrepublican
Your nation has to stand up to this type of bullying. We will cheer you on. Our turn is coming very soon.

I had given your post some thought and wished to stay out of any volatile comments on those that may tremble. Now I have observed over many years the awesome power of government. Here is their tactic- be it Canadian, American or British.

First they might send in an agent-provocateur. Not always, but it still works. They copied the old Czarist regime in Russia. Ok, so the provocateur goes in and convinces a few to commit insurrection. Next those poor dupes then are exposed. A series of savage sentences follow. The majority of citizens then are more likely cowed and frightened.

You see, if some of our Freeper Friends were likely to take action and suddenly all the support faded, they would be left alone to face the music. In Canada, there are members of the judiciary who simply cannot wait to jump on someone who dares to offend and attack a minority group. Muslims to the fore. There is one judge is is Jewish, who drools with the prospect of destroying some poor devil, who dares even protest the Koran. He has done it already.

Now, and please excuse this long screed. I have the knowledge of a life time. If and only if there is to be a direct retaliation against any vile, stinking purveyors of hate, there must be this.

(1), A significant number of participants to take this action. That number must be such as to overload the system. It must number in the thousands.

(2). It cannot and must not get out of hand.

(3) It must strike fear in a manner, that means both those who are a corrupt judiciary pushing their own their kow tow, and a frightened system, must then be more concerned with any counter-terrorism movement.

I should add a disclaimer. I am merely offering a theoretical view. Finally, because of what has happened both in Britain and Canada, because the individual stood alone, I say this.

Let there be no martyrs.

33 posted on 01/04/2010 1:59:01 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: Peter Libra
Correction.

..... There is one judge who is Jewish.....

34 posted on 01/04/2010 2:08:49 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: a fool in paradise
The so called “anti-war” movement in America during the Vietnam War had a decidedly “pro-North Vietnamese” (anti-South Vietnamese) bent.

Your thesis is correct in the case of this "anti-war" clown.

It was not nearly so true during Vietnam. Jane Fonda, yeah. But many of us were against the war for other reasons. Number one was the draft. A free country does not need a slave army. Number two was the political manner in which it was fought. We got into it backing the f'ing French in recovering their pre-WWII colonies. Our political leadership totally f'd the dog in their approaches. We never fought to win, using overwhelming force. 50,000 guys of my generation died for NOTHING. Our politicians spent their blood like ther damn Socialist Security IOUs.

I was VERY much against the war, and I VERY much wanted the North Vietnamese to lose.

And after they repealed the draft, I joined the US Army, voluntarily. An excellent experience well worth my time and effort, and the Army seemed to think so too, as I was promoted as rapidly as my MOS would allow.

35 posted on 01/04/2010 3:03:38 PM PST by jimt
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To: Peter Libra
I agree with all you have said. I never encourage, nor would I ever use violence against others.

Many in our communities are sheep, never questioning what they are told, believing the most absurd statements.

Fortunately, many are beginning to see what many have been telling them is true. More and more people are awakening to the deceptions of this administration and the Democratic party.

The only power we have is at the ballot box and it will take huge numbers of people knowing and remembering all that is taking place to turn over the numbers.

The Tea Party movement is very important and is a battle I'm willing to join. People must be willing to protest in large numbers. And yes, a provocateur is always a risk.

36 posted on 01/04/2010 3:17:10 PM PST by mia
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To: UKrepublican
I neglected to answer your population question.

In the early US, railroads ran entirely east-west. The locomotives were coal fired. Iowa was the last opportunity to load coal prior to the Rockey Mountains. This was the basis for the mines’ business.

When the railroad switched to diesel in the 1930s, the mines closed and the children of the miners left to secure better jobs in bigger cities.

There was not enough minable coal in Iowa to attract industry and utilities preferred a better quality coal.

Mystic has reverted to an agricultural community with only the remaining main line railroad, hauling four 120 car unit trains of Wyoming coal each day, remaining as a reminder.

The production from the Wyoming coal fields in a week would outweigh Iowa's total contribution.

37 posted on 01/04/2010 4:56:53 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: jimt

The LEADERS of the antiwar movement in Vietnam were pro-Communist traitors. There were others who meant well but by and large the organizers of the movement and rallies were Red.

Jerry Rubin, Abbie Hoffman, SDS, Weather Underground, Pete Seeger, and on and on.

And plenty of “front” groups.

The Communists in America led the “antiwar” movement against going to war against Nazi Germany too (at least until Hitler betrayed their beloved Stalin). Communist does NOT mean “antifascist” despite what the Stalinist revisionist historians today claim.

And Code Pink and ANSWER have their Communist backers as well.

There are and were plenty of non-Communist people who went to march or sign petitions or write letters to editors and congressmen in opposition to wars. But the leadership of such movements is often Communist and not exposed as such by the MSM.

The Media felt no such qualm when they TRIED to falsely link the tea parties to white supremacist and neo-nazi hate groups. Yet they ignored the banners, literature, t-shirts etc of the Che loving pro-Communist protesters at Bush-Cheney “warcriminal” marches (which sometimes ended in anarchist rioting, not a peaceful act).

Even William Ayers called his actions peaceful and said that it would have been a violent act to NOT act out against the Vietnam war.

I thank you for your service and do not want to paint with a broad brush that the housewives and college and highschool students who protested against the Vietnam war were supporting the North Vietnamese in word or deed. But there were those in the movement who proudly did so (and carried bits of downed American aircraft with pride and celebrated us getting our “ass kicked”).

Look at Michael Moore’s editorial about the Iraq war where he gloated about how we “WILL LOSE Mr. Bush!” and how we deserved to do so coming home licking our wounds.


38 posted on 01/05/2010 7:55:49 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: mia
Thanks for your consideration on my ramble.

We shall all keep the faith.

39 posted on 01/05/2010 9:19:10 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: a fool in paradise
The Communists is America led the "anti-war" movement against going to war against Nazi Germany too (at least until Hitler betrayed their beloved Stalin).

Brings back memories, now laughable. In England, the Communist paper, The Daily Worker, came out against the war early. They said it was a capitalist plot to make money. The Labour Party was then included in a "Coalition Government". Morrison, a socialist and free speech advocate, was a minister. The gingerly little begger immediately closed down the Daily Worker.

Came the attack on Russia, the biggest mistake in history possibly by Hitler, if not the attack on Pearl Harbor. Out came the British Commies. They then screamed that the Allies were dragging their feet and letting the Russians do the work. Huge chalk signs all over London - "Second Front Now".

You can always trust a communist- to be a communist. Their numerous dupes- dupes.

40 posted on 01/05/2010 9:32:11 AM PST by Peter Libra
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