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To: Drew68
The definition of "Natural Born Citizen" that requires both parents to be U.S. citizens is nothing more than a fictional device created by birthers specifically to be a standard of eligibility that Obama could not possibly meet. As such, you'll find this definition nowhere in the Constitution or any established case law.

Wishing this requirement is a "fictional device created by birthers" does not make it so, any more than a global warming alarmist - wishing the earth was heating up to further their agenda - will make it so. As you can see, we are in the midst of a brutal winter, and this issue will catch up with Barry, in time. The Truth has a nasty way of coming to light.

Nice try though...

198 posted on 01/06/2010 2:56:35 PM PST by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: thecraw; Drew68
"The definition of "Natural Born Citizen" that requires both parents to be U.S. citizens is nothing more than a fictional device created by birthers specifically to be a standard of eligibility that Obama could not possibly meet. As such, you'll find this definition nowhere in the Constitution or any established case law."

Wishing this requirement is a "fictional device created by birthers" does not make it so

Here's the short version as to why Drew's right, and the 'two citizen parent' requirement is a fictional device:

1) Obama wrote a book, "Dreams From My Father," wherein he makes it abundantly clear that his father was Kenyan, and not a U.S. citizen. The book was published in 1995. It was re-released in 2004. It was a New York Times #1 bestseller, and the audiobook won a 2006 Grammy award.

Ergo, the fact that Barack Obama Sr. was a Kenyan has been a publicly acknowledged fact for 15 years, and has been a VERY publicly acknowledged fact since 2004.

2) Obama Jr. announced he was running for President in February 2007. He won the Iowa Caucus in January 2008, and clinched the Democratic nomination in early June 2008.

3) Despite the very well-known facts of the senior Obama's Kenyan nationality since at least 2004 if not 1995, and despite a contentious Presidential campaign that began in early 2007, when did people start making the argument that Obama Sr.'s Kenyan citizenship made Obama Jr. Constitutionally ineligible, even though he was born in Hawaii to an American mother?

JUNE/JULY 2008

If the 'two citizen parent' requirement were true, and not a fictional device, it is absolutely astounding that no one realized that this was a straightforward Constitutional bar to his eligibility until almost a year and a half into his campaign, and almost 15 years after he published his memoir. Apparently, we're supposed to think that this simple and obvious fact simply escaped EVERYONE'S attention, including every Obama opponent in the country, until mid-2008 when it was suddenly and inexplicably realized that he'd been ineligible all along and nobody had noticed.

But no, the reason that no one advanced this theory until 2008 was because the 'two citizen parent' requirement didn't EXIST until 2008, and didn't start getting passed around until Obama had locked down the Democratic nomination.

201 posted on 01/06/2010 3:16:44 PM PST by LorenC
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To: thecraw
Wishing this requirement is a "fictional device created by birthers" does not make it so, any more than a global warming alarmist - wishing the earth was heating up to further their agenda - will make it so. As you can see, we are in the midst of a brutal winter,

So, not buying this birther nonsense makes me a default believer in man-made global warming?

That's pretty desperate, trying to piggyback the birther crusade on the shoulders of the global warming myth.

223 posted on 01/06/2010 5:19:52 PM PST by Drew68
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