Ady Gil sinks after whaling skirmish

Australian Broadcasting Corporation ^ | January 8, 2010

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

You’re right. After the “activists” get their boat cut in half, of course they cry to a sympathetic media about the horrible mean Navy. They’re well-funded by all kinds of govt. and leftist money, so they go after the captain and try to sue him personally (since suing the US Navy gets them absolutely nowhere, and even if they won, it would take literally 20 years). Bunch of dogs. On second thought, why give dogs a bad rap?

[Abathar]

I watched a few episodes of the show Whale Wars last season.

My wife forbids it now, I kept waking the kids yelling “Ram them! Just turn and RAM THEM!!” at the TV.

[Poe White Trash]

Those whalers are scum. They are the scum of the earth...

...I implore you to go to Alaska during the Summer and take a boat ride to look at the humpback whales.

The Inuit of Alaska hunt whales, tho' probably not humpbacks. Are they "scum of the earth," too?

I had an anthro prof who had some whale meat in her freezer, a gift from her Inuit friends. She cooked and ate it, as far as I know. Was she "scum of the earth"?

[Lurker]

The nutballs are pirates and should be treated as such.

Sink their boats and machine gun the survivors.

[HamiltonJay]

The eco-facists were involved in PIRACY by its complete and proper definition, they were flying the jolly rodger, seen in your photo on the left, still on one of its flagpoles, they were attempting to interfere in the lawful commerce of the other ship. That’s Piracy and to top it all off the Japanese ship didn’t ram their boat, they ran themselves into the side of the whaler.

The whaler would have been completely within their rights to not have rescued the pirate crew and left them with their scuttled ship to die as it sank.

[envisio]

“””””they were able to remove all the fuel from the speedboat to prevent any pollution.”””””””

WHEW! Thats a relief! Thats the first thing I think about while my ship is in distress, going down.

[GonzoGOP]

WHEW! Thats a relief! Thats the first thing I think about while my ship is in distress, going down

It would be if you were an eco loon. After all a hundred or so gallons of diesel spilled into the ocean would probably cause complete global warming, (looks at snow outside window) um climate change, ya that's it.

[Screaming_Gerbil]

"I think the Japanese deliberately took that vessel out; they saw it as a threat and they were under orders to take it out.

The video shows it was clearly the fault of the Ady Gil, 100%.

They might have been getting into position to deploy a prop fouler ahead of the Japanese Whaling boat. Found this info online:

"A prop fouler is designed to wrap around the propeller of a ship and shut it down. If Sea Shepherd can foul the prop of a whaling ship, the ship goes home."

Whale Wars: Prop Fouler

[envisio]

“””the Ady Gil clearly rammed the Japanese ship.””””

A Farrari against a garbage truck.

“Lets see if we can make this garbage truck stop. I have a $1million dollar Farrari. Lets ram it!”

stupid is as stupid does

[humblegunner]

AND PLEASE SHOW ME PROOF THEY ARE NOT ENDANGERED!

Nuke 'em from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure.

[GonzoGOP]

the Ady Gil clearly rammed the Japanese ship

My personal opinion is that the Ady Gil was trying to cut across the Japanese ships bow and drop a prop fowler. He either misjudged the Japanese ships speed, or the Japanese captain decided that before he fowled his prop he would feel his bow.

In the film shot from the other Sea Hippie ship (MS Bob Barker) it is clear that the Japanese ships bow hits the Ady Gill just forward of where the name is painted. I don't think the Ady Gil was trying to ram with the side of his boat. He plaid chicken with a ship two hundred times his size and got run over.

I think we now have a new poster child for "Ship Of Fools".

[muawiyah]

Humpback whales are mass murderers ~ voracious carnivores, they filter feed tiny crustaceans, plankton, and small fish (including herring, mackerel, capelin, and sandeel) from the water.

[rollo tomasi]

While in Hachinohe had some fresh Minke right off the boat. Tasted almost as good as Tajima beef. And yes, this was after I saw “humpback whales in Alaska during a summer trip”. Your righteous indignation is hilarious and I thank you for the laugh this morning.

Why did our Creator make whales so tasty? Hence, probably the reason why they are “slaughtered” in the first place. If numbers are too low I am sure some type of official stance will be taken but there seems to a relative healthy amount of Minke to “sustain the eco-balance and harmony of the earth” so these "research" boats can continue. If they poach then it is up to that individual country, not some kangaroo pirate with a TV $$$how, to enforce the law.

[muawiyah]

As I've pointed out repeatedly the ultimate target of the ecofreaks is the small segment of the Japanese and NE Asian population who REQUIRE whalemeat to survive.

Obviously not all Japanese want or need whalemeat, but why should that give a bunch of ecofreaks the right to commit genocide against that minority, and why should I get the warm and fuzzies about genocidal ecofreaks?

Does not compute.

I'm applying for a permit to take seal myself.

[GonzoGOP]

It's common knowledge that it's bad luck to rename a boat

Actually the superstition is that changing the name changes the luck. So if you have a hard luck boat it is a good idea to change the name.

On the other hand letting a bunch of Sea Hippies drive your boat is generally considered bad luck. Or at least very bad judgment.

[EricT.]

I see that there are FReepers who have bought into the whole magical mythical unicornian whale BS that GreenPeace indoctrinated America’s children on for the last 40 years.

Whales are just another mammal.

I’ve seen no evidence that baleen whales are any more intelligent than cattle. Those mystical whale songs don’t really sound much different than the noises I regularly hear from the cattle ranch down the road.

I don’t really like eating octopus or sea weed, but I’m not against the Japanese eating that stuff. If they want to eat a few non-threatened whales, big deal.

And yes, I’ve been within 20 feet of a California Gray and her calf out in the Pacific. I thought it was pretty cool. I’ve had the same feeling watching deer walk around under my tree stand and turkeys strut around for my decoy hens.

Like other have said, I respect the beauty and magnificence of many animals. I also kill and eat them.

[DCBryan1]

The nutballs are pirates and should be treated as such. Sink their boats and machine gun the survivors.

Amen. Trying to foul the propellers of my ship in the open ocean is tantamount to killing the entire crew. Its like a cop confronting a druggie with a needle. Does the needle pose an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury? No! However, not knowing what is in the needle, a citizen or a cop has a right to stop the attack (including lawful deadly physical force) if they reasonably fear that they could contract a deadly, communicable disease from the violent crack addict.

In this situation, attempting to foul the screws does NOT immediately threaten the lives of the crew members, but a ship without propullsion in the Southern Ocean can easily, easily capsize, and kill the crew. Even if they made it to the life rafts, you cannot count on the eco-terrorists to make a real attempt at survivor recovery, and with the cold EXTREME COLD water, no survival is guaranteed, even with a ship closeby.

I am with you. As soon as these cretins get within 100m, (ESPECIALLY AFTER STRIKING A LEGAL NATIONAL FLAG AND HOISTING A PIRATE FLAG) fire a Mk19 or .50 cal M2 across the bow. They cross the 100m threshold....aim for the boathouse with the grenade machinegun, and use the M2 with SLAP rounds below the waterline.

If these religous zealots want to die protecting large sea cows, so be it, but as captain of a ship, I value the life of my crew and would protect them from open seas terrorism.

[GonzoGOP]

Sink their boats and machine gun the survivors.

Now you can't shoot the survivors.
(1) Bad PR. Every one you shot would cause two more to come down. And while there is no bag limit on Sea Hippies (they certainly don't appear to be endangered) they are a nuisance.
(2) Wastes ammo.
(3) Poor economics. Brass and lead cost money. Sub freezing antarctic water is free.

[Vision]

Now they polluted the ocean. Good going.

[GonzoGOP]

To make matters worse, the annual increase in targeted Southern Ocean whales means that supply is already outstripping demand, a situation “unthinkable for an ordinary business entity”

OK for those that want to stop the whaling, here is the better way to do it. Get their government subsidy cut. I think all conservatives agree government handouts to unprofitable businesses, from GM to Chrysler to Ethanol to whale meat should be eliminated. The Japanese whalers don't go down into that miserable chunk of ocean for fun, they do it because they get paid. If nobody buys their product and the government doesn't subsidize it the trade ends.

No need for speed boats, bottle throwing hippies or endangering the lives of the people on the ships.

As for the people who depend on whale meat for protein, get a burger at McDonald's. The cattle farms operate at a profit.

Or perhaps we can convince the Japanese to change to hunting Sea Hippies. Their captain has enough blubber to warrant a harpoon. And the population of hippies (both aquatic and urban) requires thinning.