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HI Territorial Law 57 (foreign born & HI B.C.'s) - Joint Motion Filled in HOLLISTER v SOETORO
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Posted on 01/08/2010 7:30:02 AM PST by rxsid

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1 posted on 01/08/2010 7:30:05 AM PST by rxsid
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To: LucyT; BP2; STARWISE; Red Steel; pissant; hoosiermama; null and void; Amityschild; Calpernia; ...
Ping!

"HI Territorial Law 57 (foreign born & HI B.C.'s) - Joint Motion Filled in HOLLISTER v SOETORO"

2 posted on 01/08/2010 7:31:48 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

book mark


3 posted on 01/08/2010 7:32:44 AM PST by ElayneJ
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To: rxsid

B U M P


4 posted on 01/08/2010 7:32:51 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: onyx; STARWISE; little jeremiah; Fred Nerks

*ping*


5 posted on 01/08/2010 7:33:17 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Ping


6 posted on 01/08/2010 7:35:08 AM PST by McKayopectate
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To: hennie pennie; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

~~PING!


7 posted on 01/08/2010 7:36:44 AM PST by STARWISE (.They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: rxsid
looks like another revered jurist is going to get a payday

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8 posted on 01/08/2010 7:40:10 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: rxsid

Indonesian National



9 posted on 01/08/2010 7:40:23 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Clever tag line can only be seen on the other Internets.)
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To: rxsid

Interpret, please


10 posted on 01/08/2010 7:49:59 AM PST by Former MSM Viewer
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To: rxsid

Interpret, please...good or bad for Truthers?


11 posted on 01/08/2010 7:50:25 AM PST by Former MSM Viewer
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To: Former MSM Viewer
I don't recognize the term "Truthers" as being a part of this.

However, this is "good" information for those looking to expose the usurper.

12 posted on 01/08/2010 7:54:25 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: SvenMagnussen

Barry Soetoro - Indonesian National




REGISTRATION or GRADEBOOK NO. 203. (Obama was student number 203)
1. The name of the pupil: Barry Soetoro
2. The place and date of birth: Honolulu, 4-8-1961 (August 4, 1961)
3. The nation
a. of Citizenship: Indonesia
b. The foreign descendants/Foreign nationality: (blank)
c. The ethnic group: (blank)
4. The religion: Islam
5. Address of the pupil: Menteng Dalam (Menteng Dalam - an administrative village of Tebet, a subdistrict of South Jakarta, Indonesia) R001/R003
6. From which school (moved from) and what class: ???
7. a. Date accepted: 1-1-1968 (January 1, 1968)
b. Grade: I (First grade) 8. a. The name of the parents Mr./Ms.: L. Soetoro M A (Lolo Soetoro)
b. Occupation/Job: (???? Geography ????)
(Name of the mother will only be used if father is deceased)
c. Address: Menteng Dalam (Menteng Dalam - an administrative village of Tebet, a subdistrict of South Jakarta, Indonesia) R001/R003
9. The name of the guardian: (blank)
(??? was filled up, ??? parents of the pupil were not available, already ???? ???? because another thing )
b. Occupation/Job: (blank)
c. The address: Menteng Dalam (Menteng Dalam - an administrative village of Tebet, a subdistrict of South Jakarta, Indonesia) R001/R003
10. Left this school: (blank)
a. ?? was finished. Outside from the class: (blank) The date: (blank)
b. ?? recieved ?? the date: (blank) No.(blank)
c. ?? the school to: (blank)
11. Other information: (blank)

13 posted on 01/08/2010 7:55:33 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Clever tag line can only be seen on the other Internets.)
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To: rxsid

bm


14 posted on 01/08/2010 7:58:54 AM PST by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
Hi there, Former MSM Viewer.

The term, "Truther" or "truthers" refers to that group of people who seriously believe that 911 was an inside job -- perpetrated by our government for its own nefarious ends.

At some point, BHO henchmen, who don't care that BHO is not a natural born citizen of the USA and therefore NOT eligible to become president, started calling people who wanted to see his birth certifigate by the nickname, "birthers" --- obviously trying to denigrate them as conspiratorial kooks like the truthers.

15 posted on 01/08/2010 8:00:39 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: rxsid

Maybe wrong term to use, but anything that will bring the truth about O’s birth is welcome.


16 posted on 01/08/2010 8:01:46 AM PST by Former MSM Viewer
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To: rxsid

Ping

What’s happening here?


17 posted on 01/08/2010 8:02:37 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

I think its good..but it probably wont do us any good.

Looks to me like it says what we already knew, if we kept up with this. Anyone could have given the information on a child, to get a certificate of live birth. This does NOT mean the child was born there. It only means the chid was born....somewhere.


18 posted on 01/08/2010 8:03:28 AM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: hennie pennie

Yes, thanks for the correction. My mistake in terminology.


19 posted on 01/08/2010 8:03:36 AM PST by Former MSM Viewer
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To: Former MSM Viewer

I knew what you meant.


20 posted on 01/08/2010 8:05:15 AM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: rxsid

Heinz 57


21 posted on 01/08/2010 8:11:46 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Truthers are people who are not convinced of one error or another, regarding Barry O.’s COLB, Passports used, college admissions and financing, etc.

We remain convinced that glaring errors on the COLB and that it was even offered as proof of anything are of dubious value, as we know there are at least 3 Long Form Birth Certificates in existence. Two of those are in Barry O.’s possession; the one he used to obtain his original passport/college admissions and the one he found among his mother’s belongings.

In addition, there are no records of Barry’s life available for examination. We have only his narrative, of his life, with no way of verifying it.

Birthers are the original challengers of John McCains citizenship and while we want to make clear they were the first and probably correct in their view, we seek to move to an examination of Barry’s life and get to the truth.

Hence, Truthers. We accept the terms Birthers or Truthers as we don’t care and want evidence of the claims of Barry, lack of claims by way of generalization and a sense that there are some real problems with Barry’s background.


22 posted on 01/08/2010 8:25:43 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
LOL, there are SO many of these nicknames, and SO many of them rhyme -- remember the "firsters," as in, "America FIRST-ers"??

Plenty easy to get confused when trying to follow all this, particularly when the nicknames are given by opponents who want to besmirch the group.

23 posted on 01/08/2010 8:39:09 AM PST by hennie pennie
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If someone other than Orly Taliz is bringing suit that is good. She seems very ineffective. It’a amazing all this hasn’t been cleared up by now. What court is this in? What law suit is it a part of?


24 posted on 01/08/2010 8:46:57 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: hennie pennie; pissant
Please-God-just-one-little-break ping.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

25 posted on 01/08/2010 9:27:12 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: STARWISE; LucyT

OBUMPA


26 posted on 01/08/2010 9:28:33 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: rxsid

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


27 posted on 01/08/2010 9:46:41 AM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: wintertime
"What’s happening here?"

The finding of this law is important because it proves that there existed, at the time of Barry's (alleged, 1961) birth, a way for foreign born baby's to obtain a HI birth certificate.

Previously, only the more recent version (from 1982, found here) was widely know...and a 1911 (?) version I believe. This HI Territorial Law 57 was in effect during 1961. Now the proof has been found and added as part of the court record for the HOLLISTER v. SOETORO case.

So the next time someone tries to lie to you and say that no such law existed (allowing foreign born baby's to be able to obtain a HI b.c.) at the time of his birth...you now have the proof to refute them.

28 posted on 01/08/2010 9:52:30 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

thank you


29 posted on 01/08/2010 10:04:38 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: wintertime; rxsid

Thanks, wintertime for asking for a synopsis and a *thank you* to rxsid for the *plain English* definition.

Legalese is not my strong point!


30 posted on 01/08/2010 11:34:41 AM PST by azishot
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To: rxsid

Re #28

Many thanks, rxsid. I always look for your posts because I know you can cut through to the truth.


31 posted on 01/08/2010 12:27:02 PM PST by Faith (Natural born citizen and willing to prove it.)
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The finding of this law is important because it proves that there existed, at the time of Barry's (alleged, 1961) birth, a way for foreign born baby's to obtain a HI birth certificate.

now that's interesting...

32 posted on 01/08/2010 12:35:25 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: rxsid

You’re a big fake, Hussy!


33 posted on 01/08/2010 12:49:14 PM PST by RoadTest (Karl Marx renamed Free Enterprise (the source of a nation's wealth) "Capitalism".)
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#32.

......BTW, freeper "Lucysmom" is NOT my mom.

34 posted on 01/08/2010 1:28:41 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT

BookMark


35 posted on 01/08/2010 2:30:31 PM PST by NorwegianViking
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To: LucyT

BUMP


36 posted on 01/08/2010 2:41:47 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: rxsid
Out of state, or out of country also....



Ohhh, Good day ladies and Gentlemen, this is Uncle Maowie , hope your doing fine.
Ohh yes, those Freepers are so smart and very well informed, and the Obots, and the Main Fringe Media useful idiots are so so dumb.
Ohh yes, so true, the Hawaii polices back in 1961 were so lax that even a caveman and Uncle Maowie could get a Regirstered Birth Certificate from the state of Hawaii...
Ohh yes, your very own Uncle Maowie, ohh so true, even I , Uncle Maowie could have had people go to Hawaii with some people, show them bogus documents, show a really really sad face, swore false statements, and BINGO !! I , Uncle Maowie is even a Natural Born US Citizen .....
Go Yankies,
Eat Apple Pie and Rice !
37 posted on 01/08/2010 3:21:38 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: RoadTest

aaahhh....what?


38 posted on 01/08/2010 3:30:30 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: hennie pennie

FWIW, I prefer the term “Constitutionalists” since that’s what we’re trying to follow. It encompasses all. But whatever gets everyone onboard.


39 posted on 01/08/2010 3:37:02 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: The Comedian
It was so easy back in 1961 for anyone to get a Hawaii Birth Certificate that even Uncle Maowie and a Caveman could do it.




40 posted on 01/08/2010 3:43:54 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: rxsid
I suggest people interested in this take time to read the linked copy of the brief, especially page 17 of filing. It basically says the COLB on the internet isn't worth caca and must be presented to an administrative body or official to have even probative value....

page 19... .....Given the latitude allowed under these territorial statutes a health official years later could say that they had seen a document that verified that the defendant Soetoro aka Obama was born in Hawaii when in fact such was not the case....

UH OOOH....ping the anti-birthers TSHTF

41 posted on 01/08/2010 3:46:05 PM PST by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: rxsid
At that time we were unable to locate, either on the website of the state of Hawaii or in the law libraries of the local law schools a copy of the territorial laws as they were in effect at the time of Soetoro a/ k/a Obama’s birth before the major revision of the state of Hawaii’s laws in 1982. Since that time the undersigned’s support staff has been able to locate a set of those territorial laws of Hawaii as they were published with the authority of the Territory of Hawaii in the years before the birth of the defendant Soetoro a/,k/a Obama and as they continued in effect up through the year that he was born.

Oh, those pesky obscure laws and over eager undergrads. Sometimes, no matter how hard you try or how many palms you grease, you just can't erase every bit of evidence.

42 posted on 01/08/2010 3:49:47 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
That's right.

I used to think it was nearly impossible that a candidate such as Barry (with his ideological/political background and associations) would ever get "selected".

However, with the state run media actively cheerleading an overt foreign born communist, coupled with a severely dumbed down (American Idol/MTV ultra liberal hollywood watching) voting population that for a generation (or two) was largely educated by the socialist's in the universities...I can see how someone like a mao could get selected. With a HI short form that is. Or, perhaps not even that will be required next time around.

Barry's precedent must not be simply voted out. The usurper must be exposed. Otherwise, there will be a "next time," and it could be much worse.

43 posted on 01/08/2010 3:50:57 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws


44 posted on 01/08/2010 3:51:23 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Tiger Woods ?


45 posted on 01/08/2010 3:52:29 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Jack Black

The case is Hollister v. Soetoro a/k/a Obama, in the US Court of Appeals for DC.


46 posted on 01/08/2010 3:53:38 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: bgill

In this particular case, the help attorney Hemenway received may have come from other experienced lawyers.


47 posted on 01/08/2010 3:55:33 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Veddy interesting!


48 posted on 01/08/2010 3:55:33 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: rxsid
Yowza!

Yes, this is why we need to see the long form.

49 posted on 01/08/2010 3:56:14 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: rolling_stone
"I suggest people interested in this take time to read the linked copy of the brief"

Yes indeed. The fillings by Hemenway have been very, very good.

50 posted on 01/08/2010 3:58:02 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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