Skip to comments.Teen who hit 66-year-old pizza man with baseball bat won't stand trial as an adult (Ft Worth TX )
Posted on 01/09/2010 9:04:49 AM PST by Dubya
FORT WORTH Fred Rein used the tips he earned delivering pizzas to help people, whether paying for a pizza for a financially strapped family or a young mothers electricity bill.
But on Oct. 3, authorities say the 66-year-old Fort Worth man encountered a 16-year-old boy intent on stealing money from Rein.
On a friends phone, the teen later told police, he called Dominos Pizza, gave the false name Joseph and placed an order for four pizzas, cheesy sticks and two bottles of soda. He provided an address on Bessie Street, a house where he used to live and now knew to be vacant. Then he and three friends walked to a park across the street from the house and watched and waited.
When the deliveryman arrived, the teens approached and demanded the pizza. When Rein laughed, the teen later told investigators, he hit the man with an aluminum baseball bat.
Prosecutors Amy Mills and Tim Bednarz sought to have the teen certified as an adult, pointing to his lack of remorse for the attack, which left Rein with a permanent brain injury. He is still hospitalized in a rehabilitation facility.
"He may be 16 but this was a cold, calculated, premeditated attack on an innocent victim," Mills told state District Judge Jean Boyd.
Boyd, however, denied prosecutors request, siding with defense attorneys Chad Lee and Jonathan Simpson, who had argued that the teen had not yet been afforded the counseling services and treatment programs that are available in the juvenile system. They had also pointed out that a psychological exam raised concerns about the teens maturity and sophistication.
(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...
During Fridays hearing, robbery Detective E. C. Pate testified that the teen laughed and giggled when a magistrate read the charge being levied against him and took offense when he was referred in legal documents as a “child.”
“He didnt feel that he was a child,” Pate testified.
By the time you’re 16 and planning premeditated violent robberies, you’re a guilty adult, and a future Democrat.
Where do you breed assholes like defense attorneys Chad Lee and Jonathan Simpson? THEY should be tried...
Had Mr. Rein been a member of my family there would be four well-ventilated teeangers.
Indeed, population decrease by 4.
Satan can be seen throughout this story.
I often agree but that is not our system of justice. Ours is an adversarial systems rather than one designed to find the truth no matter what. The advocates of our system say it is the best way to find the truth.
I’d bet we’re all thinking the same thing:’another aspiring rap star trying to turn his life around.’
I get so tired of this crap I could hurl.
Any pictures of the judge, the perp and the victim?
Hey!!!!! I just realized something!! Mr Rein’s alive!! :)
This story could be worse.
Gee, might there be a RACAL COMPONENT to the story??? Any of U locals know?
This kid should be under detention until he is 18, at which time transfer this POS to a prison for a few years.
They had also pointed out that a psychological exam raised concerns about the teens maturity and sophistication.
How much maturity and sophistication does it take to bash a 66 year old man in he face with a ball bat?
“I often agree but that is not our system of justice. “
I understand the “legal system” thanks...but it has no relationship to justice anymore. They already said they did it///put them away, because these savage little prcks will be beating someone elses head in next month, when they get released into “treatment>”
There is not enough money on the planet for me to try to get these bstrds back on the street. And anyone who would be diligent in making it happen should...I won’t say it.
“The teens probation officer, Lupita Martinez, provided a glimpse into the teens home life and past criminal history during the hearing.
In 2007, the teen was sentenced to one year of probation for throwing bricks from a bridge onto oncoming traffic.
In September, he was accused of resisting arrest for scuffling with an officer at school but was not prosecuted in lieu of the robbery case.
Martinez said the teens mom works two jobs to support her family and his father is in prison. As a result, the boy is frequently left alone and often would not attend school, she said.
Since his detainment, the teen has been at times disrespectful and disruptive, once flooding his room and recently being caught with two screws in his room that he described as a “shank.”
Martinez said he has also reportedly discussed wanting to escape and said she has concerns that he is a danger to the community.
Throughout the hearing, the teens hands were handcuffed and attached to a belt around his waist.”
Exactly. And THAT fact alone should be the determining factor as to whether to try this animal as a adult, or a child.
Well at least one of the four may get some jail time......
.........A warrant has been issued for a fourth suspect, 17-year-old Erwin Estrada, accusing him of aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. Tarrant County court records show that Estrada is in the Tarrant County Jail serving a 90-day sentence he received last month for assaulting a family member.........
The punk should be locked away forever. He’ll be out on the streets murdering and raping and the courts will be oh, so surprised.
This woman has forfeited her job in my mind.
100% guarantee that this “juvenile” will end up on the adult roles eventually. I pray no one else is hurt.
defense attorney Chad Lee:
.. argued that the teen had not yet been afforded the counseling services and treatment programs ...also pointed out that a psychological exam raised concerns about the teens maturity and sophistication."Hes in some ways very much like a wild animal turned loose on the streets," Lee told the judge.
'counseling services and treatment programs'??
his: 'maturity and sophistication'?!?
Hey mr bonehead lawyer you said it, this scum is like a Wild Animal Turned Loose!
And what pray tell do you DO when you see a Wild Animal running loose on the streets??? Hmmmm?
What if its a Mountain Lion? Or a Pit Bull? Or just your average wild animal, like a squirrel with RABIES!
You Put It Down!(1) That's what you do Mr asshat lawyer.
And that's what should be done with THIS "wild animal".
And whether the victim is still breathing is irrelevant, he's Brain Damaged. So in effect his life IS OVER. For all intents and purposes he is d-e-a-d.
(1) I don't give a carp if this maggot is a minor, or 'immature', 'unsophisticated' - whatever the HELL that means, his daddy is in prison, or his momma is crack ho. KILL HIM NOW because he WILL kill someone! He's a sociopath. EXECUTE him, dammit.
“Counsel” the little sh*t with a bicycle chain—studded with fishhooks.
Capt Rein is a member of the same family as many FReepers! He served in the Armed Forces of our country. Anyone who has served is a member of his family!
“And whether the victim is still breathing is irrelevant, he’s Brain Damaged. So in effect his life IS OVER. For all intents and purposes he is d-e-a-d.”
No they did take away something from this man and they should pay. But he is alive. We don’t believe “quality of life” garbage on this forum.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!
Fred Rein, a former Air Force captain and pharmaceutical company salesman, suffered multiple skull fractures in the attack. Injuries have affected his short-term memory and his vision is now impaired.
We dont believe quality of life garbage on this forum.okay newbie
The violent criminal who tried to kill a guy for change needs counseling and treatment???
That us a funny reply that people use when they have stepped in it and don’t have a good response. You said the man was for all intents and purposes dead. THAT is the quality of life argument.
That us = That is. Preview is my friend!
I am sure you wouldn’t call Jim Robinson a newbie so here is a statement from him about it:
“As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life,”
Pinging Jim because I mentioned his name.
We? Rather presumptuous, don't you think?
A point you might well consider taking to heart in an effort to tone down that aura of self-righteousness you're exhibiting here -
Don't you ever presume to speak for me!
Just some FRiendly advice to someone who obviously doesn't spend much time here...
I wasn’t presuming to speak for you. I was talking about the essence of the forum.
I thought it was rather presumptuous of Condor to believe this man was for all intents and purposes dead because he was brain damaged. Tell that to someone else who is handicapped. I spend quite a bit of time of FR. It is a conservative website.
Conservatives believe that every innocent life has value. The reason my tone was condescending is because I was angered by Condor’s post. They didn’t take the man’s life but Condor supposes that they may as well have.
Ping to 39. Sorry couldn’t remember your full screen name.
State District Judge Jean Boyd issued the ruling against Russell Dow in an adult certification hearing at the Scott D. Moore Juvenile Justice Center.
Dow was certified after authorities noted that Dow had been referred to juvenile officials nine times and he had been on juvenile probation twice.
Dow had planned to use the slaying as the subject for a rap song, according to testimony Wednesday morning from Hurst Det. Daniel Bedillion.
Dow is one of seven teens accused in the killing of 20-year-old Reed Ballard. Dow is accused of being the shooter.
Just for the two of you I will amend my earlier statement.
I don’t believe “quality of life” garbage. I am sad to see that other conservatives do.
Oh,G-d,how can someone do this to an innocent person? My heart breaks for the poor man.Why is it that such horrible things happen to those who are trying to help others?
For doing what, their jobs (providing a rigorous defense)? You do understand the way our system works, don't you?
I’d like to take my pro goalie stick (one used in the NHL so it’s pretty sturdy),and smash this piece of S**t in the head w/it.So hard,in fact, that the words Sher-Wood would be noticeable on his face.
How much maturity and sophistication does it take to bash a 66 year old man in he face with a ball bat?
I originally responded to a comment about the veracity of the defense lawyers and you bring up an excellent point along that line as well as my comment about our judicial system.
Your question answers itself and it also exposes the posing of the question for its emptiness and contradiction. It well illustrates the sometimes folly of our adversarial system and indicates how easily defense lawyers can play the system to escape justice
We know and have seen many examples of how prosecutors do the same.
“For doing what, their jobs (providing a rigorous defense)? You do understand the way our system works, don’t you?”
Yeah, thanks professor, I understand how the system works...I don’t understand how these two shitbums work. They disgust me.
Were I the Judge I would sentence him to death,...and I am not kidding. I’m serious. And this would be the last pizza delivery man ever hit by some mutant POS!
Worse???????????????Sure it could! The dent in his skull could drip blood and fluid forever! Say what?
If these lawyers (likely public defenders) disgust you then sorry, you don’t understand our system.