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For Top Bonuses on Wall Street, 7 Figures or 8
NY Times ^ | January 9, 2010 | LOUISE STORY and ERIC DASH

Posted on 01/09/2010 12:04:18 PM PST by TopQuark

The bank bonus season, that annual rite of big money and bigger egos, begins in earnest this week, and it looks as if it will be one of the largest and most controversial blowouts the industry has ever seen.

Bank executives are grappling with a question that exasperates, even infuriates, many recession-weary Americans: Just how big should their paydays be? Despite calls for restraint from Washington and a chafed public, resurgent banks are preparing to pay out bonuses that rival those of the boom years. The haul, in cash and stock, will run into many billions of dollars. .

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KEYWORDS: classwar; envy; greenmonster; learntopost; marxism; nycrape
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Another piece of socialist propaganda that reads like Nazi and Communist propaganda. You are supposed to get really, really mad at those filthy capitalists and replace them with... benevolent, caring government.

Sadly, great many conservatives on this forum share these feelings with the socialists.

1 posted on 01/09/2010 12:04:19 PM PST by TopQuark
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Industry executives acknowledge that the numbers being tossed around — six-, seven- and even eight-figure sums for some chief executives and top producers — will probably stun the many Americans still hurting from the financial collapse and ensuing Great Recession.

Goldman Sachs is expected to pay its employees an average of about $595,000 apiece for 2009, one of the most profitable years in its 141-year history. Workers in the investment bank of JPMorgan Chase stand to collect about $463,000 on average.

Many executives are bracing for more scrutiny of pay from Washington, as well as from officials like Andrew M. Cuomo, the attorney general of New York, who last year demanded that banks disclose details about their bonus payments. Some bankers worry that the United States, like Britain, might create an extra tax on bank bonuses, and Representative Dennis J. Kucinich, Democrat of Ohio, is proposing legislation to do so.


2 posted on 01/09/2010 12:04:33 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Admin Moderator

I obviously placed the URL into a wrong line. The title is

“For Top Bonuses on Wall Street, 7 Figures or 8?”

Could you please fix it?


3 posted on 01/09/2010 12:06:43 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark

Has Goldman paid back all the Goverment money they were granted under TARP yet?


4 posted on 01/09/2010 12:11:03 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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To: TopQuark
The difference between a society of slaves and one of free men is very slight: free men have an opportunity to become one financially independent, to gain an amount of property that allows them to provide comfortably for themselves and their children, and maybe even their grandchildren without continuous toil. People like George Soros would have us pull up the ladder now, so that he and his fellow billionaires can enjoy the upper echelon for themselves, transforming us into a society of slaves.

These people who work and make big paydays are a CRUCIAL link in the chain from us normal people to the upper echelons. Without such links, we are suddenly no different from the slaves who are given a ration of food, housing, plasmascreen TVs by overlords.

5 posted on 01/09/2010 12:14:13 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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please see #5
6 posted on 01/09/2010 12:15:23 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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Not if their paydays are coming on the backs of taxpayers they don't. Then it is crony capitalism, not the Free Market at work.

Then it is this

An oligarchy (Greek Ὀλιγαρχία, Oligarkhía) (oligocracy) is a form of government in which power effectively rests with a small elite segment of society distinguished by royal, wealth, intellectual, family, military, or religious hegemony. The word oligarchy is from the Greek words for "few" (ὀλίγος olígos) and "rule" (ἀρχή arkhē). Such states are often controlled by politically powerful families whose children are heavily conditioned and mentored to be heirs of the power of the oligarchy. Therefore China would be a communist oligarchy style of governmen

7 posted on 01/09/2010 12:19:13 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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No, without these people it is an oligarchy.

Anyone can become a top trader & earn the big paydays if they are capable.

“power effectively rests with a small elite segment of society distinguished by royal,...”

does not apply. This is classic leftist ploy: play people off against a small group & blame societies ills on them.

It’s got NOTHING to do with what money they borrowed UNLESS there were specific clauses forbidding certain things. If there were not, it has NOTHING to do with it.


8 posted on 01/09/2010 12:26:42 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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...crony capitalism...

Or as Ayn Rand put it, the aristocracy of pull. In Chicago it would be the aristocracy of clout.

9 posted on 01/09/2010 12:27:51 PM PST by omega4412
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Sadly, great many conservatives on this forum share these feelings with the socialists.

As a shareholder of many of these banks through index funds, I can say it stinks. Although they had some what of a nice recovery this year after the near death experience, the stocks are still way down in most cases.

As a taxpayer, these guys would be shining shoes if it weren't for the TARP money and trading their way out of the problem they created..

10 posted on 01/09/2010 12:52:08 PM PST by EVO X
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As a taxpayer, these guys would be shining shoes if it weren't for the TARP money and trading their way out of the problem they created..

Heads, they win. Tails, you pay.

11 posted on 01/09/2010 1:21:25 PM PST by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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Has Goldman paid back all the Goverment money they were granted under TARP yet?

Back in June.

12 posted on 01/09/2010 1:45:20 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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Not if their paydays are coming on the backs of taxpayers they don't.

Yeah, we shouldn't pay Congressman until they stop wasting taxpayer money.

13 posted on 01/09/2010 1:46:34 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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Yes


14 posted on 01/09/2010 2:18:55 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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Heads, they win. Tails, you pay.

Unfortunately, I find myself agreeing with Robert Reich about breaking up the big banks. No way should high risk taking be intertwined with FDIC banking.

15 posted on 01/09/2010 2:59:09 PM PST by EVO X
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No way should high risk taking be intertwined with FDIC banking.

All those banks holding all those mortgages. What were they thinking? They should have held something safe like.......um.....uh......what should they have held?

16 posted on 01/09/2010 3:02:37 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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what should they have held?

Mortgages that were somewhat likely to be repaid. Countrywide would still be around if they hadn't gone hog wild and loaned money to people only capable of fogging a mirror.

17 posted on 01/09/2010 3:34:18 PM PST by EVO X
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what should they have held?

Mortgages that were somewhat likely to be repaid.

Like investors should only buy stocks that are going to go up?

You know not all banks originated sub prime liar loans? Not all losses were from sub prime liar loans?

18 posted on 01/09/2010 3:47:53 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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You know not all banks originated sub prime liar loans? Not all losses were from sub prime liar loans?

If they weren't heavily involved with sub prime loans, they are more likely to still be in business. All the big financial institutions that got into trouble were heavily involved with sub prime. Citi had something like 55b in sub prime write downs and losses..

19 posted on 01/09/2010 4:59:57 PM PST by EVO X
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I don’t begrude them bonuses, but I would like to know just what they did to deserve them. If the taxpayers hadn’t bailed them out, they wouldn’t even have a draw.


20 posted on 01/09/2010 5:19:15 PM PST by razorback-bert (Just call me mohhamed-bert when I am flying.)
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