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To: valkyry1

hahaha

I flew the A320 and the B777. You are off by a mile. Do some research before you post.

And as far as the hours,most of the time pilots spend at work (away from home) are unpaid. Pilots only get paid when the airplane is moving. The 70ish hours per month number is pretty meaningless.


21 posted on 01/10/2010 6:38:06 PM PST by Captain Steve (I'm sick of political correctness and glorifying special interest groups.)
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To: Captain Steve

Research? I was there. Of course ‘you guys’ as a group always want to keep the details of those contracts hidden from the public as much as possible. The noble savage, the noble pilot, both mythology.

I know several years back at UAL, a 5 year FO on a 737-300 would already be up at 90K, no one should have needed a second job on those wages at that time at all unless they were not managing their money well.

I was there for 25 years from 1984. I’ve ridden on the flight decks of most all of those planes from the DC-8, 727, the 747-SP on up to the 777 and 747-400 hundreds of times. And I saw what was in those contracts for the pilots, it was obscene.

Management is always an easy scapegoat to place the blame on. But it was those pilot contracts, the way their retirement benefits were set up, their thuggish strongarm tactics lead by ‘mad dog’ Dubinksy, later the summer of 2000, and their take over attempts were what ultimately bankrupted UAL.


28 posted on 01/10/2010 7:07:24 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: Captain Steve

In a former life I flew 747-4’s, the long haul lifestyle was difficult, my personal best was 46 time zones in 5 days. One could see guys aging before your eyes. The human body was not designed for that.


45 posted on 01/10/2010 8:08:27 PM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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