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To: Smokin' Joe
As such, as a qualification for the office, it can be sorted out when it arises in those cases, rather than be done for everyone.

Far better to get all the paperwork in order as soon after a child's birth than to try to reconstruct events and chase down documents and "witnesses" 40 or more years later -- as is happening now.

If from day one, all the documentation clearly establishes that a child has been legally determined to be either natural born or native born, then there shouldn't be any disputes later on.

It shouldn't add that much more expense. The parents present their birth certificates, which state their place of birth, at the same time that the child's birth certificate is prepared. The legal/recording clerk/registrar then checks one of two citizenship boxes on the child's birth certificate, and the parents' birth certificates and child's birth certificate are kept on file.

Hassle-free. Plus it establishes a clear chain of document custody since the time of a child's birth.

I have the feeling at some point both Congress and the SCOTUS will be nailing down the legal definition of natural born in the future. If Congress and the Court determine that there is a distinction between natural born and native born, then these determinations will be made at the time a birth certificate is prepared and legally filed.

146 posted on 01/11/2010 7:47:18 PM PST by kittykat77
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To: kittykat77
Far better to get all the paperwork in order as soon after a child's birth than to try to reconstruct events and chase down documents and "witnesses" 40 or more years later -- as is happening now.

To what purpose? Just in case your child is the one of 300,000,000 who runs for president or vice president once every four years?

Please note the reason, the supposed ONLY reason the documents have to be hunted down, etc. is that the person who is supposed to qualify under the Constitution is not as forthcoming with his documentation as any kindergarden student in the US must be to be enrolled.

If not for that resistance to releasing records which simply could not have all been lost by accident, this would be a piece of cake.

In order to get a job in the area I live, in the field in which I work, (Nothing that special, no security clearance, and not handling vast sums of money), you have to undergo drug testing, provide proof of citizenship, undergo a background check, driver's license check, and even a credit check. Now, none of us have the 'football' within a few dozens of feet, nor the authority to release nuclear weapons and utilize them, but the guy who won't show his records does. If that does not give you at least a twinge of concern, considering this was to be the administration of "transparency", I do not know what would short of DEFCON 1.

Even more dangerous however, is the blatant disregard for the Constiutional bounds of the Federal Government, by this same person, a pattern of behaviour which indicates complete disregard for the foundations of this nation, and the nation itself.

As for the documentation not costing much, let's say it only costs 10 dollars, on average to get all this through per child. (When the filing of birth certificates, and keeping those records already exists, along with records of paternity, maternity, etc.) the expense would fall upon the taxpayer, and at 10 dollars a head, the expense would have been three billion dollars for the existing pool of people in the US. Versus twenty bucks a head for the twenty odd candidates to produce their documents every four years.

No brainer, if you ask me. Considering that the candidates already spend from tens to hundreds of millions of dollars campaigning, even if it cost them a few hundred dollars to prove that they qualified, the insignificance of that sum compared to the cost of preemptively certifying everyone pretty much spells it out.

Obama's records exist, but they have been ordered sealed. Don't you even wonder why???

How many times have we all been told the old canard "You shouldn't object if you have nothing to hide.", or words to that effect?

Ergo, Obama has something to hide.

162 posted on 01/12/2010 9:07:06 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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