Posted on 01/11/2010 5:21:06 AM PST by SJackson
The liberal milieu and mainstream media are baffled: What could have possibly led the 23-year-old Nigerian boy Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab to attempt jihadi suicide on a passenger plane? How could such a nice, educated Islamic boy, who grew up in a rich and prosperous family, have come under the radical and extreme influences that set him on his violent course? Its just all so mysterious.
Its so mysterious that the news anchors on CNN continue to incredulously ask each other and their guests these questions back and forth, over and over again, in a cyclical circus that has no end and that never produces the most obvious answer staring any sensible person right in the face. In the liberal imagination, there is just this extremist ideology out there somewhere and somehow this unfortunate Muslim boy fell under its spell, but no one can be exactly sure how or why it happened. All one can be sure of is that an adversarial culture or ideology must not be blamed and that America, somewhere, somehow, must definitely be at fault.
And so, when it comes to the liberal left trying to digest Abdulmutallab and his suicidal quest, perplexed dismay becomes a much safer hiding place than honesty, because the basic truth threatens the very survival of the liberal faith. For the liberal to accept the evident reason why Abdulmutallab set off on his suicide odyssey would necessitate him having to completely shed himself of his entire worldview and personal identity. The much easier route, therefore, is to keep oneself confused and to stay focused on how American capitalism and imperialism must have surely had something to do with it even though, as is the case with the cause of Islamic terror itself, these factors are so obviously not involved in Abdulmutallabs suicidal and murderous yearnings (i.e., Abdulmutallab comes from a privileged, wealthy, and educated life, etc.).
What the lib-left milieu simply cant digest is what Islamic terrorists like Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab themselves insist motivated them. And these are things like, you know, reading certain religious texts and following a certain religions teachings. They are things, sort of like, well, following Islam and reading the Koran and stuff like that.
When all is said and done, the true reasons why Abdulmutallab embarked on his murderous mission of suicide are completely understandable and only to be expected in the context of his Islamic odyssey. And Abdulmutallab himself clearly points to the influence of his religion in his own personal writings on the internet.
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To leftist elites, he had it all.
“Its just all so mysterious.”
...not to me it isn’t...there are only two kinds of Muslims coming to the United States:
1.assassins
2.fellow travelers
Liberals do not recognize the true nature of man. They believe given enough education, opportunities, money, empowerment etc etc people will become benevolent loving beings. History has shown us that that mind set is wrong. Mankind is fundamentally depraved and is in need of redemption.
Islam is an insane murder cult, period. The rest is jihadist PR.
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I have been saying here on FR from day one (9-11) That following the fundamentals of the Islamic religion is the problem.
The suicide bombers are not radicals they did not hijack the religion. They just follow the messages in the Koran and Hadiths,for the prospect of an eternal reward..- Tom
Simple answer: Quuran Suras 2:190-193, 2:216, 2:244, 3:56, 3:151, 4:56, 4:74, 4:76, 4:89, 4:95, 4:104, 5:51, 5:32-38, 7:96-99, 8:12-14, 8:39, 8:60, 8:65, 9:5, 9:14, 9:23-30, 9:38-41, 9:111, 9:123, 25:52, 47:4, 47:35, 61:4, and 66:9
The suicide bombers are not radicals they did not hijack the religion. They just follow the messages in the Koran and Hadiths,for the prospect of an eternal reward.
--is not quite true. While following the Qu'ran and the Hadiths will lead a Muslim to wage war against non-Muslims without making distinctions between combatants and non-combatants, it will not lead to suicide bombing. There are Qu'ranic prohibitions on suicide, which until the 1960's were taken as absolute. To be a sheehad the infidel had to kill you. The one "hijacking" of Islam that ever took place was the introduction of the existentialist idea of "absolute commitment" into Qu'ranic commentary by Saayed Qutb, the intellectual forebearer of the Muslim Brotherhood, who introduced the idea that killing oneself in jihad showed absolute commitment to Allah, and thus was not suicide.
Islam was bad enough as 'revealed' by its false prophet and as it developed with the rejection of Averroes' and Avecinna's introduction of Aristotelian rationalism, but got worse through contact with the European 'post-Christian' philosophical left.
Why do so many rich Americans hate America, like the Kennedy’s, Ted Turner, entertainers, etc.?
One word? GUILT same for panty bomber.
Ah, so he was an evil capitalist then.
Well, there you go. Mystery solved.
I disagree.
It will lead to suicide bombing obviously. It has lead to many hundreds of suicide bombings. Certainly not all Muslims fighting us Infidels will commit suicide but some will. - tom
http://www.xs4all.nl/~eurodos/docu/cpsu-texts/cpsu86-21.htm#SocioEconomicDevelopment
They truly believe this stuff still. That a ‘new man’ can be made from socialism that will only consider himself as part of a hive. This is still their goal.
Disagree with facts if you like (though that is usually a trait of our ideological opponents). The tactic of suicide bombing only arose under the influence of Qutb’s writings, which as I noted applied existentialist ideas to commentary on the Qu’ran. Before the 1960’s, Muslims waged barbarous war, fought fanatically without regard for their own safety since death in battle against the infidel was considered martyrdom and a sure ticket to Pardise, slaughtered innocent non-combatants, but they did not kill themselves as part of waging jihad.
They are certainly killing themselves now aren't they . And the reason in my opinion is religious motivation.And that comes from the Koran and Hadiths.
Killing infidels and losing your life doing it, is not the same as committing suicide because of a financial reversal, or because of other worldly problems. A Muslim does it to kill Infidels and gain approval from Allah. -Tom
Now just a cotton-pickin’ minute. I never touched a girl other than my mother, sister, etc., until my wedding night either, and never flirted or dated until I was ready to marry, at about 23. Neither did most Chassidic young men, although there have always been hypocrites in every religion. But it never even occurred to me to set fire to my genitals on an airplane. I just carried on as best I could, and channeled the energy build-up into study and prayer as much as I could, and deferred sexual pleasure until later. Since Chassidic terrorism is unheard of, terrorism seems not to be caused by mere sexual self-denial.
For that matter, why don’t Catholic priests go around setting fire to their genitals on airplanes? To them, sex is utterly foreclosed, and they freely volunteered to abstain forever.
Of course, neither Christians nor Jews believe in a pornographic playboy bash in the hereafter. And neither believe that earthly pleasure of any kind is evil. And neither hold women in contempt, either.
But something deeper is at work here. Moslems do get married, sometimes to multiple wives, and pederasty and pedophilia are not out of the question to Moslems, as they are to Christians or Jews, barring the occasional hypocrite/pervert. So if anything, they are allowed more earthly pleasures than Christians or Jews. So what gives?
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