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Swine flu 'a false pandemic' to sell vaccines, expert says
The Daily Telegraph (article from NewsCore) ^ | January 12, 2010 | Chris Pollard

Posted on 01/11/2010 11:54:38 PM PST by myknowledge

THE swine flu scare was a "false pandemic" led by drugs companies that stood to make billions from vaccines, a leading health expert said.

Wolfgang Wodarg, head of health at the Council of Europe, claimed major firms organized a "campaign of panic" to put pressure on the World Health Organization (WHO) to declare a pandemic, UK tabloid The Sun reports.

He believes it is, "one of the greatest medicine scandals of the century", and has called for an inquiry.

An emergency debate on the issue will be held by the Council of Europe later this month.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailytelegraph.com.au ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackhelicopters; conspiracynut; elitistscam; h1n1; swineflugate; swinefluscare

This is the biggest news development incriminating the globalist elite as the true perpetrator behind the swine flu scare.

The globalist elite used this as a test run for the extermination of 2/3 of the world's population, selling swine flu vaccines laced with God-only-knows-what dangerous chemicals and cancerous elements while accumulating fat bottom profits.

1 posted on 01/11/2010 11:54:39 PM PST by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge

Yep check out SV-40 contamination of vaccines and the government went ahead with the inoculations...


2 posted on 01/11/2010 11:56:24 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: myknowledge

Dude. Way over reacting to stuff. Need to take a break.


3 posted on 01/12/2010 12:01:22 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: myknowledge

Sell vaccines? How about “used as a primer to sell the NEED for Nationalized Health Care.”


4 posted on 01/12/2010 12:01:57 AM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: myknowledge

You sound like an Alex Jones subscriber?


5 posted on 01/12/2010 12:02:23 AM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: myknowledge

To sell vaccines, national health care and climate change....


6 posted on 01/12/2010 12:04:44 AM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: streetpreacher
No, I only view Alex Jones' websites.

Anyway, the article I posted exposes the truth behind the globalist elite's swine flu scam and toxic vaccines.

7 posted on 01/12/2010 12:19:24 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge



8 posted on 01/12/2010 12:50:45 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: myknowledge



9 posted on 01/12/2010 12:53:08 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: historyrepeatz
"Sell vaccines? How about “used as a primer to sell the NEED for Nationalized Health Care.”"

That would have been my comment.
GMTA

10 posted on 01/12/2010 1:30:41 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: myknowledge

Along with vaccines, think about the makers of Tamiflu whose massive stockpiles were probably expiring soon.


11 posted on 01/12/2010 2:06:05 AM PST by momincombatboots (Ambition: climbing over others to make it; Passion: arriving while everyone enjoyed the climb)
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To: myknowledge

Where has this azzhat been?

I have been saying this since the beginning of the H1N1 “scare”.


12 posted on 01/12/2010 2:07:28 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: myknowledge

And my bet is that healthcare workers will be forced in to taking it next year to use it up.


13 posted on 01/12/2010 2:32:04 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: historyrepeatz

or globalized health care even?


14 posted on 01/12/2010 2:48:20 AM PST by RC one (WHAT!!!)
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To: myknowledge

H1N1 hoax... one in a long line of liberal induced hoaxes... climate change aka global warming, anti-smoking, pro-choice (never mentioned the risk of breast cancer in women who get first-term abortions), health care reform where no intervention is needed (mostly being done for illegal aliens), etc. etc.


15 posted on 01/12/2010 3:07:55 AM PST by xtinct (The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you..Be Strong Patriots!)
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To: myknowledge

And when any of us mentioned this six months ago, we were called wacky tin foil hatters.


16 posted on 01/12/2010 3:10:56 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: myknowledge

Most “H1N1 deaths” are due to complications from other health issues. It seems like the media just needs something to talk about. it is not sexy to say, “wash your hands often and use commonsense”

OTOH I lost a perfectly healthy 48 year old friend on Sunday after a 42 day battle with H1N1. He did not fit the demographic that has fallen victim to the virus. While this experience has led me to rethink my position on H1N1, I cant ignore the fact that H1N1 is not as lethal as the common flu. My original position is still the correct position. No vaccine for my family.


17 posted on 01/12/2010 3:28:27 AM PST by Salmonslayer
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To: myknowledge

There is a simpler, more logical reason. The real threat is, and always has been, Avian flu. It is so virulent and deadly that the world medical community banded together to demand preparations against it.

These changes are so enormous, sweeping and untested that when Swine flu came along, it was seen as a golden opportunity to test the system. They knew from the start that Swine flu was not a serious threat, mild even by ordinary flu standards.

And, I might add, that they did find serious problems in parts of the plan, problems that had they first shown themselves during an Avian flu epidemic would likely have resulted in the death of tens of millions of people.

And Swine flu proved to be so mild, that even much of the test couldn’t be performed. There was no public interest in getting vaccinated against such a mild disease.

So instead of any recriminations against vaccine makers, or wild conspiracy theories, we are back to getting prepared to face the monster of Avian flu, which potentially can still be as deadly as the black plagues of the 14th and 17th centuries combined.

When it comes, there will be no argument against vaccines, if you can get them, because with people dropping dead from the Avian flu all around you, those who argue against vaccines will be numbered among the dead, so their arguments will be moot.


18 posted on 01/12/2010 3:40:23 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: myknowledge
Not exactly why I didn't go running for a shot, but okay. A good friend in the medical field recommends against any sort of flu shot and instead stick to plenty of sleep, nasal irrigation (neti-pot), vitamin D3, plenty of fruits and veggies, etc. And this guy is pretty much to the left, too.
19 posted on 01/12/2010 5:20:53 AM PST by Desdemona (These are the times that try men's souls. - Remember Christmas 1776)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Interesting post. I didn’t know that the Avian flu would spread like that.


20 posted on 01/12/2010 5:30:23 AM PST by homegroan (ZQczar...happily addicted to the Refresh Button.....)
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To: myknowledge

I’ve thought the Hamthrax pandemic was a load of bunk all along.

Too few corpses littering the streets and too many yammerheads on TV screaming it was the end of days if you didn’t get injected with Uncle Sam’s magic elixir.


21 posted on 01/12/2010 6:03:16 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: homegroan

The H5N1 has done everything right to make epidemiologists shake in their boots. Yet, tantalizingly close to a strain easily transmitted from human to human, it has yet to make that final breakthrough.

Diseases typically begin by being somewhat lethal, but there is a predictable downward curve because of natural selection—the less deadly varieties survive and are passed on. Not so with H5N1, which has maintained a 60% mortality rate for years now.

Also troubling is the number of animal species it infects, some mild and some deadly. For example, cats, dogs, birds and fish all have very different immune systems, but H5N1 is almost unique in infecting them all. This means lots of animal vectors that can infect humans, and possibly wipe out so many farm animals that famine ensues.

Competing virus strains use flocks and herds of animals like a giant computer, using natural selection to choose the best between dozens of strains. Influenza is also capable of exchanging genetic data with other types, which usually happens in swine or people.

Estimated world mortality from H5N1 has been projected to be as high as 1B+, mostly in Asia and Oceania.


22 posted on 01/12/2010 6:13:29 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: myknowledge

This would be more believable if we had been able to actually GET the vaccines in any quantity.

What’s the point of faking a pandemic if you can’t produce the vaccine you are trying to sell?


23 posted on 01/12/2010 6:26:35 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: myknowledge

None of my family fell for it, too much hype too fast, too much panic for me to follow the stampede.

Seems to be a growing trend in America to create panic for monetary OR political gain,


24 posted on 01/12/2010 6:31:58 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: Eye of Unk

This reminds me of the story about the boy that cried “wolf”. People are going to ignore health warnings if this doesn’t cease.


25 posted on 01/12/2010 7:00:20 AM PST by seemoAR (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bull.)
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To: myknowledge
He believes it is, "one of the greatest medicine scandals of the century", and has called for an inquiry.

Well that's not saying much since 'the century' is only 10 years old.

Oh, and I'm having Tin Foil sale.
And for an extra $10.00 I'll make a hat. (note: The shipping & handling is an extra $50)

26 posted on 01/12/2010 7:04:17 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: myknowledge

I do not give a sh** what Wolfgang Wodarg thinks.


27 posted on 01/12/2010 7:04:49 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Has it been found in the USA yet?
Just thinking of all the dead birds found and I know that there are a LOT less birds around this winter-the smallest number I’ve ever seen.

I always thought that the H1N1 fiasco, was a rehearsal, if you will, for something much bigger.


28 posted on 01/12/2010 7:14:37 AM PST by homegroan (ZQczar...happily addicted to the Refresh Button.....)
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To: RC one
H1-N1 certainly exposes the dire, rapidly escalalting need for a global health care system...the Global Health Care is BROKEN and needs FIXING!

Maybe Rakkie-Back The Magic Negro can fix it...?

;-/

29 posted on 01/12/2010 8:36:50 AM PST by Gargantua (Appropriate that the re-birth of our great nation be delivered by a woman.)
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To: homegroan

Right now, H5N1 has split into three major “clades”, each of which is doing its own, ominous thing.

The Chinese clade is spreading its endemic territory, becoming a permanent part of China, and figuring out how to remain viable in the “off” season. It is helped in this by a few species that can get infected but not die. But it’s driving the Chinese health authorities bonkers, because it will pop up somewhere and kill a person or two, then disappear, then reappear somewhere else a few weeks later and several hundred miles away.

The Indonesian clade is the most lethal so far. It is unnerving because there seems to be a genetic factor in who dies. An entire family will be wiped out, except for married spouses who are genetically different, who don’t even get sick.

The Egyptian clade is very worrisome, because for the first time, it has become both milder and a pediatric form. That is, it spreads very quickly among children, and maybe only one in a dozen die. This gives that clade the opportunity to mix genetic material with human varieties of influenza, and maybe get the key to easy H2H transmission.

Once it makes the transition, it will spread like wildfire, much faster than normal influenza. This is because people have partial resistance to other strains of flu, so it takes much more virus to break through the defenses. But nobody has resistance to H5N1, so just a little virus will infect everyone.

Years ago I interviewed people who as children survived the Spanish flu of 1918. It had a mortality of only 10-20%, and even in their 80’s, they were still traumatized by how many people died. It is close to unimaginable what a 60% mortality rate would be like.

The US would do much better than the rest of the world, but we would still lose as much as 10% of our population, or 30 million Americans.

And this is why doctors around the world are terrified of Avian flu.


30 posted on 01/12/2010 9:23:19 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

maybe it only hits liberals ;^)

Seriously, that is very scary. I go to the CDC website every now and then and that alone, scares the pants off me!

So, it isn’t done mutating by the sound of it and would that be why they can’t come up with some kind of a vaccine? Too bad they can’t find the markers/DNA responsible for letting H5 ‘in’. If they know it hits family members, there must be a constant variable, no?

I think I had H1 last spring; when I finally went to an ER in North Carolina (I was visiting and had had this thing for 2 weeks already) the dr told me that EVERYONE on the staff had “it” or has it and there was nothing he could do for me. I was just happy I didn’t have pnuemonia-I just wanted someone to listen to my lungs. He told me to just rest and treat the symptoms because I would have a very very long wait in the ER.(they saw me right away cause I couldn’t breathe) There were 30 people ahead of me and this was NOT a hospital ER, it was a clinic type place. He told me on Easter Saturday, they usually only see car accidents, stubbed toes-that sort of thing. And every person that was there, with the exception of 1, was there for the same thing I had.

It was very scary to see all those people there for the same thing; my sister was stunned as she had never seen the place like that.

So I think the H1 vaccine/govt-distribution was a practice run. They saw a flu spreading that was new and didn’t want the crisis to go to waste. I mean the virus had already been around for a while.
I know it was killing people, but so does the flu. If you ask me, they didn’t pass the crisis test and did a terrible job of staying on top of it. Very scary to think about them handling H5.


31 posted on 01/12/2010 10:13:26 AM PST by homegroan (ZQczar...happily addicted to the Refresh Button.....)
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To: homegroan

Useful link:

http://news.google.com/news?q=bird+flu+news&hl=en&lr=&sa=X&oi=news&ct=title


32 posted on 01/12/2010 10:41:52 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: RC one

It was WHO’s first debut to run a global pandemic program and call the shots - so to speak. In the meantime, one of the major players at WHO was all set to make a boat load of money on the vaccines.


33 posted on 01/12/2010 6:57:07 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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