Posted on 01/12/2010 7:50:15 PM PST by rxsid
Edited on 01/13/2010 2:21:33 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
As can be seen from Obama
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Yep -- the Obamanots are trying to run as fast as they can from the fact that Obama's father was a Kenyan and that he was a British national at birth and still is.
The only problem is that the State of Hawaii has said that Obama was born in Hawaii and that he is a natural born American citizen...
First, you go to the main State of Hawaii, Department of Health webpage (as shown below in the first link, then you go to the Archived Press Releases (as shown in the second link) and lastly, you go to the actual press release from the State of Hawaii, Department of Health, in PDF format. You'll notice that all the links are the official website each one tracks to the next one, and to the actual press release itself.
It is the following information, presented here text (not formatted exactly the same way, but all the same words), on that PDF file, with the official State of Hawaii seal on it...
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
News Release
LINDA LINGLE
GOVERNOR
For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009 -- 09-063
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
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As far as addressing the issue from an official State of Hawaii pronouncement, since they are the holders of the original information, and have certified as a statement from the State of Hawaii (again the original maintainers and certifiers of that information) regarding the birth of Barack Obama -- this seems to wrap it up.
It doesn't get any more original or any more certified than this, as far as state records are concerned.
Except that Barack Obama Sr is not his father. A cursory glance will tell you that,
Is this the "Lucas Smith" that was trying to auction off the Obama Birth Certificate on eBay (that some said was going for a million dollars) and eBay cancelled it about five or six times over again?
This isn't the guy that other FReepers have shown to be a scammer, is it? And this isn't the one who said that Orly Taitz told him to lie to the court, is it?
Or is this the Lucas Smith that WorldNetDaily wrote about that failed to follow through and allow them to verify the document that Smith says is the Obama birth certificate (in Kenya)? And also the one who had an agent who quit on him because Smith wouldn't do what he said he was going to do (with the birth certificate) and that his lawyer quit him because the lawyer said he wasn't following through... ?
LOL...
My God! I didn't know we let scammers on Free Republic... :-)
And yet just yesterday you said the issue needs to go before the U. S. Supreme Court. Did the Court suddenly move to Hawaii and get demoted to the Health Dept??? Hmmm???
Save the propaganda, darlin. The Hawaiian Dept of Health has lost all credibility on the matter as have you.
And yet just yesterday you said the issue needs to go before the U. S. Supreme Court. Did the Court suddenly move to Hawaii and get demoted to the Health Dept??? Hmmm???
Nope, you need a little "brush up" on the reading skills, I'm afraid...
Let's go 1, 2, 3 ... here..., and see if we can straighten this out for you. :-)
I hope you've got the #1, #2 and #3 all sorted out now... :-)
And..., by the way, I’ve been trying to get a hold of State Representative (District 80) Dr. Mike Ritze, to see if he’s going to introduce the same bill he did last year — HB 1329 (in the Oklahoma legislature). The legislature is not in session yet, so it’s a bit of a problem getting him now...
We want to see this bill get out and into law, in the State of Oklahoma, this year... :-)
That’s the one that requires the birth certificate be produced...
Sorry that's not exactly what they said. They said they have seen the vital records verifying Obama was born in Hawaii...those documents verifying Obama was born in Hawaii can be false, and you know darn well that is the question at hand and to leave it out is deception by silence. A record of birth submitted by other than an MD and a birth other than in a hospital would be very suspect. They have not taken that possibility away.
As for Natural Born Citizen, unless they somehow confirmed it was natural childbirth, (a medical statement), I will not take some Md's statement concerning a LEGAL question to be worth caca.
You are just another broken record with nothing new to add, but you continue to try and confuse and deceive.
My hearing must be going bad. I didn’t hear Barry say Steve Dunham and anyway this was a roast, which he sucked at, like his golf game.
There is one where he goes on about “You can call me Ray or you can call me Jay....”
And you need to get back on your Aricept. Here read it and try to remember what you write:
To: Uncle Chip You were saying ... Is that proof going to require documentary evidence that both parents were American citizens at the time of birth??? That understanding, that you're presenting here, is disputed among conservatives and others, as to whether that is a requirement. You may think so, but others think not.
As far as I can see, this kind of requirement that is spoken about here on Free Republic with a few Freepers maintaining that this is so -- is only going to be resolved by a Supreme Court decision.
34 posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:48:55 PM by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
People here truly question your sanity along with your credibility.
Obama is such a low class idiot. He calls himself "Barack Hussein Obama II" because he somehow thinks "II" and "Jr." are interchangeable and he thinks II sounds classier than Jr.
If, in fact, Obama Sr. is his father then Barry is a junior, not II. Now if Barry's grandfather or uncle had the same name then Barry would be II.
He can't even get his own name straight.
And you need to get back on your Aricept.
There's a bunch of y'all (of the Obama Derangement Syndrome) who keep bringing up drugs and I'll have to admit that I have no familiarity with them and am glad I don't. But, if you know all about them... that's good -- and I would advise that you keep taking them. Or perhaps that's the problem y'all are having in the first place... I don't know which is relevant. Contact your doctor and find out... :-)
As for me, I'll stay away from the drugs... thank you... :-)
People here truly question your sanity along with your credibility.
Well, about now..., I'm definitely starting to question your reading comprehension or reading ability...
I listed it out as #1, #2 and #3 -- and I was hoping that would help you out... LOL... apparently not.
So, once again, in the #1, #2, #3 picture I drew for you -- this is the #3... Here we are, once again -- for your reference ...
#3 -- If you disagree with others -- about the status of a candidate and his parents' citizenship affecting the "natural born requirement" of the Constitution (which others see a different way than you) -- then to get that part settled, you will need to go to the Supreme Court.
I hope that helps you once again...
Sorry that's not exactly what they said. They said they have seen the vital records verifying Obama was born in Hawaii...those documents verifying Obama was born in Hawaii can be false, and you know darn well that is the question at hand and to leave it out is deception by silence.
Here's the exact wording and the way I read it -- it says Obama was born in Hawaii -- and -- he is a natural born American citizen.
Perhaps you read it differently but that's exactly what I read there... :-)
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
As for Natural Born Citizen, unless they somehow confirmed it was natural childbirth, (a medical statement), I will not take some Md's statement concerning a LEGAL question to be worth caca.
That's what the State of Hawaii (and all states) hires lawyers for -- and have them on staff... :-)
You are just another broken record with nothing new to add, but you continue to try and confuse and deceive.
It all sounds pretty straightforward to me. In fact, it's super simple.
The state of Hawaii says that Obama was born in Hawaii, and that he is a natural born American citizen.
The only thing that is "complex" to some people is trying to figure out how to get out of an ordinary and straightforward statement like that -- from the State of Hawaii, the very state and agency that produces the certified copy of this birth certificate in the first place ... LOL... (and that process of "trying to get out of it, of what the State of Hawaii says -- is quite complex... :-) ... ).
Yeah, I know. After a few minutes of posting this thread, the “editor” of P&E (assuming John Carlton) pulled that video and has since replaced it with another vid and additional comments.
That is an opinion. What we do know, is that there is an actual court document that list’s Sr. as his father. Until that court document is proven inaccurate in another court, that’s what’s “on the record.”
34 posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:48:55 PM by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
Are you denying that you made the above post????
Do the words you posted say that the Hawaiian Dept of Health or the Supreme Court???
Do the words you posted say that the Hawaiian Dept of Health or the Supreme Court???
Let's try to explain this one for you once again... :-)
If you want to know if Obama was born in Hawaii, go to #1
If you want to see the birth certificate and see some other details and information, go to #2
If you want to get it sorted out and decided -- as to whether the parents' citizenship affects the status of a candidate as "natural born" -- then go to the Supreme Court, which is the #3
Are you comprehending it yet? LOL...
It's so darned simple, I just don't know why you're not getting it... actually...
Early on, after the “issues” in the original story became apparent thanks to the quick work of FReepers on the thread, I had posted a comment about the original video not showing Barry say the word “Steve”....it never got approved (posted).
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