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Justice Department Settles Kindle On-Campus Cases
AP via WSJ ^ | JANUARY 14, 2010

Posted on 01/14/2010 5:41:51 AM PST by ml/nj

The U.S. Justice Department has struck deals with three universities not to promote Amazon.com Inc.'s Kindle or other electronic-book readers unless the devices are fully accessible to blind students.

The legal settlements were made with Pace University in New York; Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland; and Reed College in Portland, Ore.

Two organizations representing the blind had sued after universities announced pilot classroom projects using the Kindle.

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The Justice Department's civil rights division began examining the issue of whether the use of Kindles and other e-readers violated the Americans with Disabilities Act. In June, the National Federation of the Blind and the American Council of the Blind joined a blind ASU student in suing Arizona State, alleging the Kindle's inaccessibility to blind students constituted a violation of federal law.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ada; kindle
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Hat tip to Chris @ CAS for bringing this to my attention.

These are times which try men's souls. This is completely insane! I don't even like the whole Kindle thing. I like real books. But they will be banned next. They really "discriminate" against the blind.

ML/NJ

1 posted on 01/14/2010 5:41:53 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
The Kindle can read the book to you.

What more do they want?

2 posted on 01/14/2010 5:45:16 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
They want kickbacks, payoffs, bakeesh,
a continuation of voter fraud, and of course,
your children for ACORN.
3 posted on 01/14/2010 5:47:09 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: ml/nj
These are times which try men's souls. This is completely insane!

This becomes obvious in all facets of life, doesn't it? The patients are in charge of the asylum.

It does seem odd that all of society must be equally crippled in order to have "equality".

4 posted on 01/14/2010 5:48:37 AM PST by GingisK
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To: ClearCase_guy
What more do they want?

Monitors that are Braile capable.

5 posted on 01/14/2010 5:50:19 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: ClearCase_guy
What more do they want?

This is probably just another shakedown.

The universities, or maybe Amazon, will pay some "advocacy group" an huge sum of money for some bogus "counseling service" or public relations campaign, and the whole thing will simply go away.

6 posted on 01/14/2010 5:55:55 AM PST by Haiku Guy ("I don't give them Hell / I tell the truth about them / And they think it's Hell" -- Harry Truman)
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To: Haiku Guy
Oh, and PS... The pay-off will come from your tax dollars...
7 posted on 01/14/2010 5:56:33 AM PST by Haiku Guy ("I don't give them Hell / I tell the truth about them / And they think it's Hell" -- Harry Truman)
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To: ClearCase_guy

OMG. Regular text books can’t be used by the truly blind.

How about audio books? (illustrations, charts and graphs are an obvious issue for ALL content)

How about a headset for the kindle?

Should concerts be banned because the deaf can’t hear them?

Should spices be banned because some people can’t taste/smell them?


8 posted on 01/14/2010 5:57:47 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: ml/nj

I don’t see a big deal in making a Kindle style device that would work with braille. A flat surface with programmable buttons that raise up and down for each page. I admit there is probably a small market for them and not much profit after R&D but it certainly can be done. Thinking back to my college days I’m surprised that the justice department hasn’t started going after the porn industry for not catering to the blind either...


9 posted on 01/14/2010 6:03:26 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The Kindle can read the book to you.
What more do they want?

"They might feel better if you gave them some cash" -
paraphrase from "Get Over It" - The Eagles

10 posted on 01/14/2010 6:05:46 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Apparently the main menu can’t talk so the blind are not able to use it. But what’s next—the doj banning universities buying cars? The blind can’t operate those either. Life discriminates against the blind. Someone can easily invent a reader they could hold to the menu. Probably already have. If there’s a market for it, it will exist.


11 posted on 01/14/2010 6:06:57 AM PST by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

You guys are all nuts.

The government is right!!!!

We should also ban cars since blind people can’t operate them.

We should ban airplanes, motor cycles, bikes, etc. for the same reason.

The list is long. Make up your own list.

We must put a stop to anything that can’t be operated by everyone regardless of their physical condition.


12 posted on 01/14/2010 6:09:51 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: ml/nj

There is no logical end to this nonsense. I hate the ADA!!!


13 posted on 01/14/2010 6:10:27 AM PST by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will continue to have more relevant quality executive experience than B. Obama.)
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To: ml/nj

If the publisher doesn’t have a digital file they chop books and run them through scanners. Run the image file through OCR software to get a digital file and then use text to speech software.

The Kindle would make it easier. Adding text to speech software shouldn’t be too hard.


14 posted on 01/14/2010 6:12:11 AM PST by listenhillary (I believe AGW is real now. It was caused by scientists and greenies LYING!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The Kindle can read the book to you.

What more do they want?

It does a passable job of reading to you - without the inflections of an audio book.

My daughter bought me a kindle and it took me a little while to get used to it, but at this point, I can actually say I love my kindle.

With the ease that you can change type size, I can read a book without worrying about finding my reading glasses! For those who are "legally blind" without being totally blind, it should be a real boost.

15 posted on 01/14/2010 6:14:22 AM PST by Abby4116
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To: Graybeard58
only 10% of the blind can even read braile, this is ridiculous.
16 posted on 01/14/2010 6:15:49 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Abathar; Blueflag; Haiku Guy; Graybeard58
Straight from the description of the Kindle on Amazon:

Read-to-Me: With the experimental Text-to-Speech feature, Kindle can read newspapers, magazines, blogs, and books out loud to you, unless the book's rights holder made the feature unavailable.

Another example of the government pissing away dollars and wasting time while the private sector takes care of business. I take there are not enought gangs, mafia and terrorists out there threatening the life of innocent people to keep the justice department busy. They need to waste time protecting blind people from an imaginary boogie-man.

17 posted on 01/14/2010 6:16:39 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: ml/nj
The fundamental problem with the Kindel cases is that it will most likely throttle down the use of emerging technologies. A luddite blind guy ~ and aren't they all, eh(/s) ~ found someone at DOJ who is equally ig'nant.

Down in the body of that article the guy at DOJ, Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez, is quoted as saying "We must be sure that emerging technologies offer individuals with disabilities the same opportunities as other students"

So, to make sure no one gets ahead of anyone else Perez is going to do what he can to stop the use of electronic book technology.

I read about this once ~ it was a story by Kurt Vonnegut ~ "Harrison Bergeron" I do believe. No doubt lawyer Perez didn't read that one in his "Hispanic Literature" classes. And now there's no chance that he ever will catch up with the rest of the world ~ all those university level literature courses vend Spanish language versions of "Harrison Bergeron" to their students in "talking book formats" only!

18 posted on 01/14/2010 6:18:28 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Blueflag

Ban paintings since the blind can’t see them.


19 posted on 01/14/2010 6:28:35 AM PST by earlJam
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To: earlJam
I was thinking of a ban on chess sets because use of one makes things humiliatingly obvious to the stupid.

ML/NJ

20 posted on 01/14/2010 6:40:58 AM PST by ml/nj
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