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After a Day of Deliveries, US Ship Runs Out of Aid (Carl Vinson in Haiti becalmed by bureaucracy)
AFP ^ | Saturday, January 16, 2010 | Daphne Benoit

Posted on 01/16/2010 6:06:39 AM PST by kristinn

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To: TigersEye

So what’s the plan?

Let the supplies sit until enough people die that the looting ends?


61 posted on 01/16/2010 7:24:26 AM PST by airborne
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To: airborne

Sorry - you are correct - according to some reports on Fox. Orgs needing credit (like Word Vision), diplomatic efforts etc are all clogging up the relief efforts as well as the only airport. Apparently the sea ports are in ruins as well.


62 posted on 01/16/2010 7:26:35 AM PST by PIF
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To: PIF

With a population of just over 10 million, it is quite possible that 1/10th of all Haitians are already dead or dying.


63 posted on 01/16/2010 7:28:51 AM PST by airborne
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To: youturn
The sheets are for dead bodies and they have to be in their original packaging?

Packaged sheets are easier to transport. They are flat and easy to handle. The odds are that nobody is going to send them sheets that are not packaged but it does not hurt to be specific in what they want. Which is not a bag full of sheets.

64 posted on 01/16/2010 7:29:01 AM PST by isthisnickcool (GIVE ME YOUR MONEY B***!! - President Obama)
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To: atc23
There is no reason why the US merchant fleet cannot deliver aid. This administration then could claim some job growth as merchant operators would need to hire seaman, stevadores, engineers etc.

The problem is that the merchant fleet is not there where our military fleet is.

65 posted on 01/16/2010 7:35:11 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Obama's only 2012 hope; lose one or both houses of Congress in 2010.)
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To: kristinn
Instead he's afraid of being a take charge leader.

He's spent his entire career "Voting 'Present' ".

What do you expect?

66 posted on 01/16/2010 7:40:56 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: airborne

I don’t know what their plan is. But it won’t do any good to put all of their supplies in the hands of gangs. Which are not the same thing as individual looters.


67 posted on 01/16/2010 7:41:40 AM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: kristinn

Obama “lucked out” because such a disaster didn’t happen in the US . It would immediately demonstrate his incompetence.

Considering where this tragedy took place the highest in command (Obama) should have forseen this is a logistics nightmare which needed an appointed central bureaucracy who’s staff would organize and coordinate the considerable US resouces which would come into play in such a disorganized situation .

For all its flexibilty sending that Nimitz class carrier to Haiti was a “statement”. What its commander is complaining about is to be expected because in these situations it happens every time. The trouble is because of the Vincent’s draft its probably berthed off shore and has to be serviced by lighters or other smaller cargo craft which would transfer the supplies comming from air through the crowded Port Of Prince airfield

Large cargo aircraft require specialized pilots who (and if depending upon the aircraft) can do a trickbag landing on the The Vincent off loading needed humanitarian supplies and here’s the harder part then take off .

During the cold war, 50-60’s we had stores (warehouses) of foodstuffs and water set aside for emergencies (atomic attack) also I believe there was a hospital ship fully equipted, on standby, which could be immediately deployed not gear up and take days to be deployed.

If and when the socialists (who play CYA and blame Bush) get run out of office perhaps the new members of the House will conduct some serious hearings and make some intelligent recomendations.
http://www.theusmat.com/


68 posted on 01/16/2010 7:42:35 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a province is to let be ruled by a professor ".. Frederick the Great")
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To: TigersEye

I read that the prison collapsed and, in addition to Haiti’s usual gangs, they now have 4000 escaped prisoners roaming the streets. I’m sure the situation with distribution of the supplies is almost beyond control now.


69 posted on 01/16/2010 7:44:15 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

Disease will be right on their heels. This is going to get much worse.


70 posted on 01/16/2010 7:45:24 AM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: atc23

“There is no reason why the US merchant fleet cannot deliver aid. “

The aid is already there; sitting at the airport.

It just needs to be delivered into neighborhoods at a more rapid rate.

It would seem helicopters could get it where needed.


71 posted on 01/16/2010 7:46:35 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: airborne

The number of casualties is not going to change the realities on the ground for the relief efforts.


72 posted on 01/16/2010 7:49:36 AM PST by PIF
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To: HereInTheHeartland

The problem is that the US Navy would deliver it to where it was needed, fairly and honestly. The folks in control of the supplies can’t have that. The folks controlling the distribution haven’t arranged for their cut yet.


73 posted on 01/16/2010 7:51:13 AM PST by PAR35
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To: kristinn

Obama’s earthquake.


74 posted on 01/16/2010 7:56:02 AM PST by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“the UN and everyone else wanted to hold meetings”

The committees they formed are probably still meeting weekly.


75 posted on 01/16/2010 7:57:46 AM PST by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: mosesdapoet

Hey..Its the Vinson not “Vincent”, yea I know named after Speaker; Carl Vinson, son of F.M. Vinson Chief Justice of the Supreme Court


76 posted on 01/16/2010 7:59:41 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a province is to let be ruled by a professor ".. Frederick the Great")
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To: kristinn
On their own, our militay knows how to deliver aid safe, fast and efficiently.

Yup, but from what I saw of the interview, the brass hat in charge was clueless.

God bless the crew of the Carl Vinson. It must be maddening knowing that they could be helping more people but instead bureaucrats and selfishness are stopping them.

Agreed.

Maybe Hillary can bust some (heads) when she hits the airport today. This is one occasion when being a (head)-busting (alpha female) will come in handy.

She does want to APPEAR to want to render aid, but I think there's a larger agenda at work. My guess is that this will be a manufactured humanitarian crisis resulting in millions of future Democrat refugees with which to solidify control of Florida, brought to you by the death cult at the UN.

77 posted on 01/16/2010 8:01:00 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Democrats were the Slave Party then; they are the Slave Party now.)
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To: youturn

“The sheets are for dead bodies and they have to be in their original packaging?”

Ok, knowing me as i do,,,i can’t believe im saying this. But while you are clearly correct, id let the poor SOBs get laid to rest in a new sheet. Maybe not 600 thread count egyptian,, but a new sheet. Poor miserable SOBs,, victims of leftism even more than they are of the quake.


78 posted on 01/16/2010 8:01:25 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: OrioleFan

“The Obama folks are still trying to figure out how to bring the Hatians up to Boston in time to vote.”

That’s it! That’s what thunder-thighs is doing, distributing MA absentee ballots to the Haitians!


79 posted on 01/16/2010 8:04:48 AM PST by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: kristinn

I was in Albania during the Kosovo crisis and it was amazing to watch the U.S. choppers in action delivering supplies, etc. We worked with NATO troops, and there’s no comparison in the equipment, comport, or skill with the American troops. It truly makes you proud to see them in action.


80 posted on 01/16/2010 8:05:59 AM PST by Skenderbej (People need to learn that no muhammadan practices his religion peacefully.)
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