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Why is Haiti so poor? A history of quake-hit island (Was once France’s richest colonial possession)
The First Post ^ | 01/15/2010 | Tim Edwards

Posted on 01/16/2010 3:27:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: fuzzybutt

Botswana has made some improvements. It’s not super-developed, of course, and there is a high AIDS rate but overall the country is growing but it does not suffer from the same problems that face other African countries.

I think it’s wrong to attribute to race what you can attribute to improperly developed cultures and, ironically, the far more disastrous (than colonialism) influence of Western statist ideologies, which when combined with tribalism or lack of technological development are an utter disaster for the people who adopt them.


41 posted on 01/16/2010 4:19:07 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Brilliant

There is also extreme mismanagement of their natural resources. The Haitians cut down and burn for fuel anything that grows, and as a result the source of the island’s wealth... its soil, has long washed into the sea.


42 posted on 01/16/2010 4:19:30 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SeekAndFind

My aunt had a governess (I guess that’s what you would call her, because she didn’t do any housework that I could see) for her children in the early 60’s. I met her in 1960 at my aunt’s vacation home. Her name was Mrs. Vincent, and she was apparently the daughter-in-law of a man named Vincent who was President of Haiti at one time. Her family had to flee Haiti afer he stepped down and she settled in America. My aunt said she showed her pictures of her family wearing beautiful clothes and jewels. Unfortunately, she was into voodoo and that was one of the reasons my aunt had to let her go.


43 posted on 01/16/2010 4:27:35 PM PST by goldi (')
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To: Skywalk

Guess we only hear about the bad ones.

Color should not be a basis for an opinion on anything. Sadly much of the time it is.


44 posted on 01/16/2010 4:31:23 PM PST by fuzzybutt
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To: SeekAndFind

Major export is tourism?


45 posted on 01/16/2010 4:32:54 PM PST by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: Frantzie
I also worry that for many reasons Obama is going to open our borders and take in hundreds of thousands of Haitian refugees who have no education and speak only Creole and have lived violent lives in a very violent culture. Add these to the welfare rolls, unemployment rolls and school systems and you end up with one more huge burden for American tax payers.
46 posted on 01/16/2010 4:46:41 PM PST by when the time is right
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To: SeekAndFind

Richest in the French New World? Well, since “Lower Canada” (Quebec and Les Maritimes) and Louisiana had gone to the British and Americans, were there any other French colonies in the New World?


47 posted on 01/16/2010 4:51:54 PM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: ProudFossil

Amen. Also take a look at Algeria and Morocco - perhaps 1 step above Haiti. They have huge rates of unemployment, illiteracy (although very intelligent people), hunger, lean-tos, and a previous French occupation.


48 posted on 01/16/2010 4:52:03 PM PST by Nodems2000 (Beheadngs are better says atlanta holy man)
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To: SpinyNorman

Amen AGAIN! Obama cultivated his style in his early youth as he watched dictators control their subjects. I always wanted to be a nurse as a little girl; maybe Obama always wanted to be a dictator as a little boy.


49 posted on 01/16/2010 4:55:30 PM PST by Nodems2000 (Beheadngs are better says atlanta holy man)
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To: SpaceBar

Yes, but when you have 10 million people in such a small area, it’s to be expected.


50 posted on 01/16/2010 5:32:18 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: ProudFossil

Also visit St Maarten, which is half-Dutch and half-French, you knew when you had crossed over to the French side just by the smell.


51 posted on 01/16/2010 5:35:11 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: northwinds

Every island colony that gained “independence” from the Europeans has turned into some sort of hellhole.

Hong Kong hasn’t done to poorly.....
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Hong Kong was not independent. Great Britain ran the show until 1997 and at that time, Red China took over.


52 posted on 01/16/2010 5:35:43 PM PST by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: Humidston

And obviously Robert Mugabe read Duvalier’s book.


53 posted on 01/16/2010 5:36:03 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Ideas and character trump skin color...always...


54 posted on 01/16/2010 5:42:24 PM PST by mo
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To: Skywalk

I don’t think Obama’s Chi-town Mojo is
up to dealing with island voodoo. I just
hope they focus it all on HIM.


55 posted on 01/16/2010 5:47:30 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Nodems2000

Or take Pakistan and Egypt, former British colonies. Formerly French Lebanon was nice until the muslims took over. It’s almost as if it’s the colonial inhabitants/new rulers who decide how a country ends up...

Why is it that the non-muslim east asian colonies turned into reasonably nice places - tiger economies even - while the African colonies are hellholes in comparison? Do you think just maybe the inhabitants might have something to with it..?

Naah, couldn’t be...

Enough with this stupid French bashing already. Not everything bad in the world is due to some whitey or another. And even the French North-African colonies were far better off under French rule than what they have become since.


56 posted on 01/16/2010 5:49:22 PM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: SeekAndFind

Considering the death toll in the current disaster, and the ongoing abysmal condition of the entire country, it seems to me that now is the time for a Haitian repatriation effort. It’s time for all Haitian brain power to head back to the homeland and start making something out of what is a 200 year old junk heap.

It’s their country, they should go home and fix it.


57 posted on 01/16/2010 6:03:08 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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To: dfwgator

Oh yeah!


58 posted on 01/16/2010 6:07:43 PM PST by Humidston
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To: SeekAndFind
On national TV, Haiti's ambassador to the U.S. openly admitted, while criticizing Robertson, that Haiti did in fact enter in to this pact with the devil.

That I haven't heard. Is that something that just happened? Do you have a link?

59 posted on 01/16/2010 6:08:22 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, islam will cover the earth with darkness for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Watch the video via Breitbart here :

http://www.breitbart.tv/haitian-ambassador-has-a-message-for-pat-robertson/

I have to modify what I said — the Haitian ambassador did not openly admit the pact, but he did not deny it either.


60 posted on 01/16/2010 7:08:22 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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