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New Radar Detection Lab Will Enhance U.S. Navy's Ability to Protect Nation
Defense Professionals ^ | 01/21/2010 | Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Jay C. Pugh

Posted on 01/21/2010 1:01:49 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

PACIFIC MISSILE RANGE BARKING SANDS, Hawaii | On January 19, the Pacific Missile Range Facility (PMRF) Barking Sands, Kauai, Hawaii began construction of an Advanced Radar Detection Laboratory (ARDEL) facility.

The ARDEL project will test and evaluate a new radar system planned for the next generation of surface combatant vessels strengthening the U.S. Navy's ability to detect, track, and provide information required to engage ballistic missiles at greater distances than current systems in use as well as more elusive long-range air threats. The advanced technologies of the new radar incorporate various aspects of ballistic missile defense (BMD), air defense (AD), and surface warfare (SuW).

The purpose of the ARDEL facility is to test advanced radar technologies including the Air and Missile Defense Radar (AMDR). According to the AMDR Major Program Manager, Capt. Larry Creevy, AMDR is a next generation radar system designed to address the BMD, AD, and SuW capability gaps identified in the Maritime Air and Missile Defense of Joint Forces (MAMDJF) Initial Capabilities Document (ICD). AMDR is envisioned to counter current and emergent Ballistic missile, air-to-surface and surface-to-surface missile threats.

"This advanced radar project will not only further the Navy's ability to protect and serve our nation and our allies, but also strengthen PMRF's status as a diverse and important training and test and evaluation resource for our country," said PMRF Commanding Officer Capt. Aaron Cudnohufsky.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Technical
KEYWORDS: miltech; radar; technical; usnavy

1 posted on 01/21/2010 1:01:49 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

Given our success with stealth technologies, I would bet that our enemies are developing the same technology. I wonder if this new radar can beat stealth.


2 posted on 01/21/2010 1:23:41 AM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: rbosque

It probably won’t matter, as any weapon system capable of enhancing our national security is viewed as a budget item to be slashed in favor of our 0bamunist regime’s socialistic agenda.


3 posted on 01/21/2010 2:08:34 AM PST by mkjessup (I'm praying for 0bama, I'm praying that God lights his ass up with a Jesus-sized lightning bolt !!!)
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To: rbosque
I wonder if this new radar can beat stealth.

My company has an AMDR program. Gee, if I had known it was being tested in Hawaii, I would have tried to get on it. It sounds like a monostatic (vs. multistatic) radar and it sounds like it employs S- and X-Band (Aegis and THAAD) or similar traditional radar bands. What defeats stealth is long wavelength (ROTHR) or multistatic radars. There are very few multistatic radars (SPACE FENCE) and only a few long wavelength radars.

The ROTHR receive array is almost a mile long and not particularly suitable for a shipborne system, although ROTHR based in Virginia, Texas and Puerto Rico maintain constant surveillance on the Carribean and send reports to ships in the area. (Drug interdiction mission.) The advantage of ROTHR in this mission is cost per square mile surveilled. ROTHR also operates in a bistatic mode, though this mode is used to avoid second time clutter rather than for enhanced RCS.

SPACE FENCE is unique in that it is not only multistatic, it is also the only CW radar I know of, other than hand held Doppler machines (baseball and police speed guns). Again SPACE FENCE is multistatic for reasons of geometry, no RCS enhancement. The Serbs putatively used an improvised multistatic radar to shoot down an F-117 during the Kosovo War. I've also heard they used longwave radar. In either case, I don't think they fielded robust systems, rather they relied on U.S. operational sloppiness and lack of electronic support measures, such as jamming.

4 posted on 01/21/2010 2:52:41 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Don't blame me, I'm from Massachusetts)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Engaging the targets farther out is the key. I used to hate watching and waiting for an incoming missile to get close enough to engage countermeasures, which was about three seconds before impact.

I still can't believe I'm walking around.
5 posted on 01/21/2010 3:03:03 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Thrownatbirth

Distance is your friend.


6 posted on 01/21/2010 3:55:11 AM PST by Pecos
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To: Pecos

My ETs were my friends. :-)


7 posted on 01/21/2010 4:07:00 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The Navy should note that if they pass through the Commonwealth of Virginia, radar detectors are illegal here. ;)


8 posted on 01/21/2010 5:35:27 AM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
The ROTHR receive array is almost a mile long and not particularly suitable for a shipborne system

How about set up as an array with part of the system on each of several ships strung out in a line?

9 posted on 01/21/2010 6:17:56 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: SunTzuWu

You’ve got a lot more ships than I do.

You can do anything if you have enough money. The Navy looked at SWOTHR (Surface Wave Over The Horizon Radar) which would put a longwave radar on a single ship. One difference was that ROTHR uses ionospheric propagation rather than surface wave and therefore has a minimum range of about 500 miles. SWOTHR would have good sensitivity against low observable (stealth) but not much accuracy. Short wavelength radar can detect low observables if they know where to look. The low accuracy SWOTHR could cue a high accuracy conventional radar which would then only have to search the SWOTHR uncertainty volume. E.g., SWOTHER tells you he’s between 10-30 bearing and 10-15 Nautical miles, the fire control radar would rapidly search and acquire the target with enough precision to put a weapon on it.


10 posted on 01/21/2010 7:33:32 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Don't blame me, I'm from Massachusetts)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I heard the Chinese and Russians are experimenting with doppler systems. They’re a bit frightened of what we’ve got.


11 posted on 01/21/2010 9:56:26 AM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: mkjessup

True.


12 posted on 01/21/2010 9:57:03 AM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: rbosque

Who knows. It would be interesting to find out.


13 posted on 01/21/2010 9:57:52 AM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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