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Unholy row over biblical gunsights
Courier Mail ^ | January 22, 2010 | Ian McPhedran and Wires

Posted on 01/21/2010 10:30:35 PM PST by myknowledge

UPDATE: THE Federal Government has ordered the defence department to look at ways of removing biblical references on gunsights used by special forces troops in Afghanistan.

The American maker of the Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight, a Michigan based company called Trijicon, stamps Biblical references next to the serial number of all of its military gunsights.

The references include "2COR4:6,'' a reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament.

The passage in part reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.''

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: acog; australia; banglist; bhodod; biblicalgunsights; defensecontractor; scripture; trijicon

What's all the fuss about biblical gunsights?

M4A1 carbine with ACOG.

1 posted on 01/21/2010 10:30:36 PM PST by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge

I would buy one for my son or daughter to use as a private citizen. I bought gun oil and had it shipped to me in SEA many years ago.....

some how they just dont get it.. dumb...


2 posted on 01/21/2010 10:32:22 PM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: myknowledge
Has nobody writing these stories even noticed that these are *night vision* scopes, and the biblical references are all to mystical light?

And is there a poet left on earth? (outside of scandanavian-metal songwriters lol).

3 posted on 01/21/2010 10:40:27 PM PST by JasonC
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To: myknowledge

forget the scopes , stamp Templar Crosses on the bullets


4 posted on 01/21/2010 10:45:52 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: myknowledge
Much ado over nothing. I doubt any muzzies would have known at all about this until the JEWISH atheist lawyer made such a big stink about it. Then he made SURE that the muzzies all knew about it as well as any other hate filled, anti-Christian groups & atheists. I hope & pray that God's hand of protection will not be removed from our armed forces. I also hope that some or most of our military who are already using the scopes will keep scripture references on their scopes.

Personally I would love to get one of the scopes with the scripture references stamped on it.

Markings included "JN8:12," a reference to John 8:12: "Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, 'I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life,'" according to the King James version of the Bible.

The Trijicon Reflex sight is stamped with 2COR4:6, a reference to part of the second letter of Paul to the Corinthians: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ," the King James version reads.

5 posted on 01/21/2010 10:58:00 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: myknowledge

I’ve heard the snipers in Iraq call the scopes on the 50 BMGs “God scopes”.


6 posted on 01/21/2010 11:05:33 PM PST by Hugin (Sarah Palin,: accept no substitutes!)
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To: myknowledge

...And muslim facists around the world using the tools liberal democrats have taught them are using this and many other like issues to FAKE being insulted so as to be constant victims. Works like a charm. They cut off innocent peoples heads, blow up buildings, murder in the name of their god and target innocents for simply not believing as they do and THEY ARE OFFENDED. Um, find me the Christians who do this, the Kews, the Buddhists or any other religion that does this.


7 posted on 01/21/2010 11:09:02 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: myknowledge

Heard on a local radio show talking about this that the manufacturer (Trijicon) had used Bibilical messages as part of the serial numbers for EVERYTHING. Not just gun sights...EVERYTHING. Given that it’s just a tiny sequence of alphanumeric characters...why the fuss?


8 posted on 01/21/2010 11:12:48 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (To view the FR@Alabama ping list, click on my profile!)
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To: myknowledge
New Zealand said they'll keep using their ACOGs as they shipped in the box because they're the best in the world.

I have a TA31F ACOG with the red chevron.

9 posted on 01/22/2010 12:54:25 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: rcrngroup

ABC(?) “news” is also complicite, but what do you expect from an organization that would rather MUCKRAKE than disseminate information. A real coup with lots of American blood on their hands. And they’ll never acknowledge or accept responsibility for it. Well, soon they will be extinct like all the other dinosaurs.


10 posted on 01/22/2010 1:06:42 AM PST by mapmaker77
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To: myknowledge

The Scope Co should have said, ‘No they’re not Bible Code, they’re part of the Lot Number’.


11 posted on 01/22/2010 4:23:46 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: rcrngroup
*** I doubt any muzzies would have known at all about this until the JEWISH atheist lawyer made such a big stink about it. ***

(shush) You are not supposed to notice little things like that.

It's funny (not) that all (97%) of these 'atheists' who are suing the Government(s) over God are ... Jewish. 'Atheist' Michael Newdow is example número uno.

12 posted on 01/22/2010 4:31:11 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: JasonC
One of the early reports mentioned PS144:1 "Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight."

It doesn't fit the mystical light theme, but it's still a good verse to reference on a scope . . . .

. . . and they can put anything they want on there so long as their customers are happy. The newsies and the atheists are just trying to stir up trouble.

13 posted on 01/22/2010 4:55:53 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I hereby cast my vote for the use of SS22:43.

For Libtards, that is a reference to Second Samuel 22:43.


14 posted on 01/22/2010 8:28:54 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru
The whole chapter is pretty good.

The scope company has acquiesced and will be removing the cites, can't blame them, they have a payroll to meet.

But maybe the controversy caused some folks to read the Bible who haven't read it before.

15 posted on 01/22/2010 9:15:41 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: rcrngroup
It wasn’t some idiot muzzie who kicked up this fuss, it was MICHAEL WEINSTEIN, from the very dishonestly named, “Military Religious Freedom Foundation”.

http://wwww.mrff.org

Many parts of his dishonest page distract from his actual aim (war on Christians); seeing all these aged Constitution scrolls and other Americana you half expect that Ben Franklin will stroll out with buckle shoes, powdered wig, and half-moon glasses, but I asssssuuuure you he is all about stamping on the bibles of US military people:

He was a USAF J.A.G. puke who worked —of all people— for Ronald Reagan, then made some bucks in the private sector suing folks for Ross Perot. Then he retired at from 2006 and has for the past 4 years been waging Secular Jihad against men who treacherously fight muslim folks who throw acid on girls and say Jews are monkeys (don’t ask me).

Sounds crazy huh? He’s overweight, ugly, angry, and other bad stuff —things you can see from the news broadcast clips he has at his website:

http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/weinstein2.html

Yes, while we are out trying to head off Armageddon or widespread terror, this guy chooses to focus on stuff that’s written on rifles —amazing, isn’t it?

I do not understand what drives this incredibly deluded, zeppelin-like REMF’ing insect.

Michael Weinstein: Bad for Jews, Bad for the USA, Bad for risk-taking American soldiers

16 posted on 01/22/2010 4:29:52 PM PST by gaijin
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Yes, I understand it was not a muzzie that made the stink about it, it was Michael Weinstein, the atheist JEWISH lawyer!!!

I doubt any muzzies would have known at all about this until the JEWISH atheist lawyer made such a big stink about it.

And you're right he is a despicable puke & piece of garbage. May God reward him richly according to his EVIL deeds. The Bible also clearly states that "At the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow & every tongue confess that He is Lord". Michael Weinstein will be cast into the Lake of Fire, reserved for the Devil & his angels.

17 posted on 01/22/2010 6:36:41 PM PST by rcrngroup
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