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Vincente Fox on Mexico Violence: US's addiction to drugs to blame
KGNS ^ | Jan 21, 2010

Posted on 01/22/2010 9:11:14 AM PST by SwinneySwitch

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To: SwinneySwitch
Some of his talking points may be bravo sierra, but there is more than a kernel of truth here.

We have been fighting the war on drugs for decades are have never made much progress at suppressing demand in the US, the biggest market. Demand is as strong or stronger than ever.

We have succeeded, however in destabilizing allies in Latin America. I wonder if Bolivia would have gone to Chavez had that government not been so cooperative. The Taliban appear to be funding their insurgency out of poppy sales.

I think we have to take a serious look at bringing some drugs out of the black market and into a legal, regulated market. Because of "medical marijuana" (what a crock), weed is as good as legalized here already.

21 posted on 01/22/2010 9:47:44 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: SwinneySwitch

“Vicente” Only one N.


22 posted on 01/22/2010 9:48:20 AM PST by NRPM (America again in 2010!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Hey, Fox! You’re plane’s sitting rotting on the tarmac at our airport. You gonna pay your repair bill or what?


23 posted on 01/22/2010 9:50:51 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: bmwcyle

The addiction of Americans to drugs and alcohol costs taxpayers dearly.Rehab beds are full in every state. Rehab facilities are a boomning business. The lives ruined by drugs are many. It touches almost every family. Users keep the drug business thriving across the nation.


24 posted on 01/22/2010 9:56:14 AM PST by oldironsides
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To: bmwcyle
Half of the responsibility does belong to the user. I know that is hard for some of you guys to take. It is true.

Where in this report did Vincente accept his half?

He didn't. THATS whats hard to take.

25 posted on 01/22/2010 10:20:10 AM PST by skeeter
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To: SwinneySwitch

Yeah, it can’t have anything to do with the rule of law pretty much being a dead letter south of the border.


26 posted on 01/22/2010 10:24:19 AM PST by zeugma (Proofread a page a day: http://www.pgdp.net/)
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To: SwinneySwitch
1)Secure the border as rigorously as military application is routinely used elsewhere in counties halfway around the world. It would cost one-third of the amount spent on say Afghanistan. It is the elephant in the room that US resources are denied for securing the border with Mexico. It is the CFR. Let Mexico stew in its own juices, and maybe they'll get the message.

2)Go after illegal hard drug dealing within the US like no tomorrow. The question is of course to define what drugs are the virulent ones. Marijuana? Cocaine? Methamphetamine? Viagra? Statins? anti-inflammatories? aspirin? tobacco?

The aged in America are drug consumers little different than the urban gang crowd and that culture becomes obvious to youth as well. But once the category of virulent drugs and drug use is ideologically defined, severe enforcement goes along way toward "education."

3)Let free enterprise boom, so the pathways to self improvement are accessible. And work like the devil to insure that they are.

4)Legalization of certain drugs is not the simple answer, as the Netherlands has discovered in spades. Most addictive drugs are just cultures of irresponsibility, as even the low intensity drug, alcohol addiction, clearly demonstrates. And if the US has degenerated in any sense in the last forty years it is the irresponsibility of its citizens (nurtured by Democrats incidentally). Maybe, like alcohol, legalization can be administered by age and venue. The war on drugs, for the sake of a civilized community, the US, must continue, but with an overriding perspective. And that perspective incidentally, could be best aided by the medical and parental communities, not a bunch of leftist lawyers.

27 posted on 01/22/2010 10:32:10 AM PST by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: bmwcyle

Without buyers, there would be no sellers, no competition, no illegal drug industry. If you wanted to manufacture or grow some for your own use, there would be no laws about illegal sales.


28 posted on 01/22/2010 10:43:15 AM PST by B4Ranch ( "Where's the birth certificate?")
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To: SwinneySwitch
Marijuana was outlawed in the 30's to replace the void in the Federal Bureaucracy left by the repeal of alcohol prohibition. It was stupid then and it is still stupid now, but the war on drugs now employs so many cops, lawyers, judges, prison guards, and counselors that noone wants to give it up.

A generation wiser than us will eventually put an end to this insane war, and will wonder what the heck we were thinking.
29 posted on 01/22/2010 11:28:52 AM PST by microgood
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To: patriot08; ezoeni; Yehuda; Texas Gal; RC one; DirtyHarryY2K; GOPsterinMA; woerm; bert; altura; ...

Zorro ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


30 posted on 01/22/2010 12:32:22 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

And who started supplying us and allowing drugs to traffic through their country?


31 posted on 01/22/2010 12:36:15 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Mexico’s addiction to criminal behavior is to blame.....starting with Fox.


32 posted on 01/22/2010 12:37:21 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

“...this nation [U.S.A.] has the largest consumer market of drugs in the world...”

In this, Fox is telling the truth.

We should start by cleaning up in the U.S. - hanging drug suppliers AND users. And don’t bother coming to their defense, saying “Oh, they can’t help themselves, it is a disease, blah, blah, blah...”

Somethings are so dangerous to society, like gangrene is to a human body, that it must be cut out and destroyed.

I have family members who are drug addicts. I have heard all the pathetic excuses. Truth is, they chose the lifestyle and a completely irresponsible one it is, too. It isn’t just themselves that are harmed, it is the whole family. Everyone else had to clean up after them and assume responsibilies for their children, as they are incompetent and completely self-centered. Today, you the taxpayer support them on SSI. What a waste of human potential and tax revenue.


33 posted on 01/22/2010 12:56:51 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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We should start by cleaning up in the U.S. - hanging drug suppliers AND users.

Never gonna happen. You live in a fantasy world.

Somethings are so dangerous to society, like gangrene is to a human body, that it must be cut out and destroyed.

Since alcohol is much more dangerous than pot, maybe we can hang all the alcohol drinkers too.

I have family members who are drug addicts.

How can that be? Drugs are illegal.

However you feel about drugs, expecting the government to solve the problem for you is unrealistic. They are too incompetent.
34 posted on 01/22/2010 1:20:11 PM PST by microgood
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To: SwinneySwitch

Of course it is our fault, Everything is our fault that is why we need a WALL between the countries like the US is building to protect borders in the mid east ..


35 posted on 01/22/2010 1:45:00 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: colorado tanker

—agreed—if any war has been a failure, the “war on drugs” is—and I am not a user, either—


36 posted on 01/22/2010 1:45:55 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: alexander_busek
Likewise, it is the illegality of statutory rape, prostitution, and usury that are the problem.

Legalize them, and then regulate them. /sarc

37 posted on 01/22/2010 1:59:51 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: AuntB

Vincente Fox blames American use of drugs....

Who exactly is using drugs in America?
My guess is a very high percentage of them are used by Mexicans and other Hispanics living in America. By American blacks. White American kids and young adults may smoke most of the Mexican pot

But I have a sneaking suspicion that what is called “American use of drugs” is more accurately Black and Hispanic use of drugs. What say you Aunt B?

I’d love to see some good numbers on this


38 posted on 01/22/2010 2:57:22 PM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: microgood

Evertime drugs are mentioned on Free Republic, people like you pop up to promote legalizing its use. That, and you always equate it with adult beverages.

There was a reason Great Britain supported and financed the importaion of opium into the Chinese Empire: do you know why they did so?


39 posted on 01/22/2010 3:03:51 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Re Vicente Fox’s assertion that Mexico’s violence is due to US’ addiction to drugs ——

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Gee, and here I thought it was all Bush’s fault!


40 posted on 01/22/2010 3:09:45 PM PST by CaliforniaCon
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