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Vincente Fox on Mexico Violence: US's addiction to drugs to blame
KGNS ^ | Jan 21, 2010

Posted on 01/22/2010 9:11:14 AM PST by SwinneySwitch

Former Mexican President Vicente Fox arrived in Laredo earlier this evening after being invited by local groups to discuss trade between the US and Mexico. But that’s not all that Fox decided to discuss when he got off the plane.

Fox was taking on questions about what seems to be escalating violence in Mexico, and not surprisingly, he says the United States shares the blame for what’s happening across the border.

Invited by local groups to discuss US-Mexico trade, former president of Mexico Vicente Fox, instead taking time to discuss other matters:

“We’re working for the United States. The truth is and everybody that is listening knows this nation has the largest consumer market of drugs in the world.”

Fox, who has suggested legalizing marijuana, says the consumption of drugs here in the U.S. is only sending problems across the border:

“What President Calderon is trying to do is refrain the drugs to this market.”

“If you look at all the killings done everyday, all are done with weapons with ammunition bought here in the United States.”

The deaths are mounting.

An estimated 15,000 people have died in gang related violence since President Calderon took office three years ago.

While efforts have been made to prevent the spillover of violence, Fox says the best way to do that is for the U.S. to work side-by-side with Mexico.

“United States reducing the consumer market, United States reducing the flow of arms into Mexico, and Mexico fighting the criminals.”

The United States currently does outbound inspections to try to catch any weapons going across the border.

Back in February of last year, Senator John Cornyn visited Laredo to discuss ways of aiding Mexico in the fight against drug cartels and said it was the United States' desire to help the Mexican government now more than ever.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; addiction; banglist; deportthemall; drugtrafficking; fox; mexico; mexicowhinningagain; vicentefox; vincentefox; wod
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“If you look at all the killings done everyday, all are done with weapons with ammunition bought here in the United States.”

You Lie!

1 posted on 01/22/2010 9:11:15 AM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

Can’t we put him on a No-Fly List!


2 posted on 01/22/2010 9:13:26 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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Nah, its the racism of white mexicans such as yourself thats to blame. The poor indigenous mexicans have no other means of supporting their families but to turn to crime.

See? This blame game sure is fun.

3 posted on 01/22/2010 9:13:57 AM PST by skeeter
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To: SwinneySwitch

Hey Vince, it’s YOUR guys selling the weapons and dope over HERE to your illegals. Oh, and wasn’t that weapons thingy disputed last year?

Guess he gets his talking points from DC.


4 posted on 01/22/2010 9:15:00 AM PST by poobear
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To: skeeter

We need to stop two things...

The flow of illegal aliens across the mexican border...
The flow of illegal drugs across the Mexican border...

Stop them both with superior FIREPOWER.......


5 posted on 01/22/2010 9:16:53 AM PST by Boonie
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To: SwinneySwitch

I’m sure the culture of corruption and collectivism in Mexico has nothing whatsoever to do with it.


6 posted on 01/22/2010 9:17:51 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (I miss having a First LADY.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Deeply ingrained Mexican corruption, including politicians like Fox who behave like kings lording over a land of serfs, has much more to do with the overall disaster that is Mexico.

The condescending patrician class in Mexico benefits enormously from having a safety valve against outright revolution, via illegal migration to the US.


7 posted on 01/22/2010 9:17:55 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: SwinneySwitch
“What President Calderon is trying to do is refrain the drugs to this market.”

Refrain?! Perhaps he means "restrict" or "restrain."

But in my opinion, the harm is due not to America's addiction to drugs - after all, Americans are also addicted to a lot of other things - soap operas, reality shows, sugar, football, online porn, etc. - which don't result in gang wars, the assassination of law enforcement personnel, etc.

(America's addiction to foreign oil IS a problem, I'll grant you that, but there are solutions at hand which are being ignored for political reasons.)

In short, it's the illegality of the drugs of which Americans are so fond that is causing the trouble.

Legalize it, and then regulate it.

Regards,

8 posted on 01/22/2010 9:19:20 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: SwinneySwitch

His talking points are BS, but his essential premise is true. Mexico’s crime problem is fueled by the American demand for drugs. It’s the same way on our side of the border, too. Despite all we’ve spent in our “war on drugs,” we still have rampant problems with meth and crack use. And as long as there is a demand for drugs, there will be a supply.

Only when the demand is gone will the market disappear. It is a societal/cultural issue, not a legal one. We have to get away from the government-led materialistic society and start putting more emphasis on character and family values.


9 posted on 01/22/2010 9:21:01 AM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Half of the responsibility does belong to the user. I know that is hard for some of you guys to take. It is true.


10 posted on 01/22/2010 9:21:26 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: alexander_busek
I agree, if you legalize it you have one problem: addiction. If you don’t legalize it you have many: rampant crime, gang traffiking, smuggling, costly law enforcement, even inflation.
11 posted on 01/22/2010 9:23:58 AM PST by Dansong
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To: SwinneySwitch
He does have a point.

If there were no market business would dry up.

No one wants to seriously address what makes so many Americans feel the need to medicate themselves regularly.

12 posted on 01/22/2010 9:27:02 AM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (ND LE)
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To: SwinneySwitch

This guy just doesn’t know how to connect the dots. Drugs are a commodity on the black market and they are shipped to all corners of civilization albeit the US is a central warehouse the drugs go everywhere. So to claim it is just the addictions of US drug users are the cause of Mexico’s drug problems is inaccurate. As for the sale and trade of these controlled substances all nations have the same problems.


13 posted on 01/22/2010 9:30:18 AM PST by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

This guy just doesn’t know how to connect the dots. Drugs are a commodity on the black market and they are shipped to all corners of civilization albeit the US is a central warehouse the drugs go everywhere. So to claim it is just the addictions of US drug users are the cause of Mexico’s drug problems is inaccurate. As for the sale and trade of these controlled substances all nations have the same problems.


14 posted on 01/22/2010 9:30:20 AM PST by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

i teach high school, every loser makes excuses why they can’t get the job done.
America has been addicted to drugs for 50 years, why the violence now?
fox needs to ask better questions.


15 posted on 01/22/2010 9:32:43 AM PST by genghis
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To: SwinneySwitch

“The truth is and everybody that is listening knows this nation has the largest consumer market of drugs in the world.”

I may not like the messenger but the message has truth to it whether we like it or not. I believe the US drug use is a strong percentage of why our kids are coming out of public schools so STUPID, including college. Everyone who keeps beating the drum about how pot is not harmful should just look at the stats of school grades vs pot users, not to mention other drugs.

Of course this is compounded with no discipline at home or in school and a poor education system to begin with but the end result is staggering. We have dumbed down our kids to alarming levels.


16 posted on 01/22/2010 9:35:27 AM PST by Integrityrocks
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To: SwinneySwitch

Keep your people home, Mr. Fox, and our guns will stay here!

Mexico is the enemy. Mexico and their beloved illegal aliens cause more crime and death in one year than any group of muslims ever did, even counting war deaths in Iraq!

Keep your cartels out of our country, and our drug use will drop!


17 posted on 01/22/2010 9:40:11 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: K-oneTexas

“Can’t we put him on a No-Fly List!”

Hell, Fox has a home in McAllen, Texas! As do most of the Mexican big whigs, including cartel leaders. They don’t want to live in the mess they created down there. Why should they, when they can import it here for us to deal with?


18 posted on 01/22/2010 9:41:52 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

“No one wants to seriously address what makes so many Americans feel the need to medicate themselves regularly. “

It could be the piles of dung Americans have to put up with because of places like Mexico and policies like McCain/Kennedy have pushed down our throats. It’s enough to make me want to go numb sometimes.


19 posted on 01/22/2010 9:45:05 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

True. A country rife with corruption starting at the top.

Forbes magazine’s recently published list of billionaires lists ten in Mexico, a country where the per capita income is less than US$7000. Guess Vincente is on it.


20 posted on 01/22/2010 9:45:42 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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