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Wow: Obama administration says “Taliban must take legitimate role” in Afghanistan
The Gateway Pundit ^ | January 22, 2010, | Jim Hoft

Posted on 01/22/2010 5:14:56 PM PST by ColdOne

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To: Cindy


51 posted on 01/22/2010 8:39:18 PM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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To: ColdOne
Obama administration says “Taliban must take legitimate role” in Afghanistan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thats a LIE Obama said NO such thing!

What he did say:

Obama administration says “Taliban must take legitimate role in Washington, D.C."

sarc off

52 posted on 01/22/2010 9:25:46 PM PST by Candor7 (((The effective weapons against Oba- Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA)))
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To: AliVeritas

Thanks for the ping.

53 posted on 01/22/2010 10:01:17 PM PST by Cindy
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Note: The following text is a quote:

Gates Reaches Out to Future Pakistani Military Leaders

By Donna Miles
American Forces Press Service

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, Jan. 22, 2010 – Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates took his message of shared challenge and commitment today to Pakistan’s rising military leaders attending the prestigious Pakistan National Defense University.

“The main reason I’m here today is to have a conversation – to hear your thoughts and to answer any questions you may have about us – about our goals and future plans concerning this region,” Gates said in opening his remarks.

Gates noted the far-ranging strategic relationship between the United States and Pakistan, but focused his remarks on the two countries’ military relationship – one he conceded the United States mistakenly cut off in the early 1990s due to short-sighted U.S. legislative and policy decisions.

“Perhaps the greatest consequence of these choices was the severing of military-to-military relations,” he said.

The result, he said, was a “very real and very understandable trust deficit – one that has made it more difficult for us to work together to confront a common threat of extremism.”

The United States is ready to invest “whatever time and energy is takes” to change that, he said, and forge a genuine, lasting partnership with Pakistan.

Rebuilding relationships with this current generation of Pakistani officers will take years rather than months, he said, and require openness, transparency and continuous engagement on both sides.

“You cannot rebuild trust through a speech or rhetoric,” but rather, through actions, Gates told Pakistani print journalists earlier today.

The two militaries have a lot to learn from each other, Gates told the officers. They’re already starting these lessons, through expanded joint training exercises, and operationally, as they cooperatively deal with extremism along Pakistan’s border with Afghanistan.

The troop surge in Afghanistan is intended to put more pressure on the Taliban and reverse what Gates conceded is a “deteriorating security situation” there. He acknowledged concern within Pakistan that the increased U.S. presence will lead to more attacks there.

But confronting the terrorist syndicate that threatens the region requires pressuring all the associated groups on both sides of the border.

“We have a regional problem here,” Gates told Pakistani reporters earlier today. “It is going to take a regional level of cooperation to deal with it.”

This reality, he told the military officers, will require Pakistan’s military to do even more in the coming years.

“As uniformed leaders, you will be responsible for preparing the military for the future,” he told the officers, sharing some of the lessons the U.S. military has learned about reshaping and reforming itself to meet new and evolving threats.

Just as the U.S. military transformed to face these new challenges, rather than fight a conventional conflict, Gates said Pakistan’s will have to change, too, to ensure it has the proper skill sets and equipment to fight along the Afghan border and in the tribal areas.

“As the future leaders of the military, you have a tremendous responsibility – to your fellow troops, and most important, to all your countrymen,” he challenged the officers.

The United States is committed to doing all it can to assist this process through a variety of means, as Pakistan desires, he said throughout his two days of sessions here.

“We are in this car together, but the Pakistanis are in the driver’s seat and have their foot on the accelerator,” he told Pakistani print journalists today. “And that is fine with me.”

One important way to share capabilities is through solid military-to-military ties, Gates said.

These will strengthen the other elements of the two countries’ broad strategic relationship, he said, providing a foundation on which to “renew, reinforce and strengthen the bonds of trust between our people and our nations.”

After presenting his prepared remarks, Gates dismissed the media from the room so he and the Pakistani officers could have an open exchange.
Their questions ran the gamut, Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell told reporters after the session.

One officer asked Gates to explain his statement earlier this week in New Delhi, where he said India demonstrated “great restraint and statesmanship” following the 2008 Mumbai bombings, but could be hard-pressed not to react more strongly – even violently— if a similar incident occurred again.

Another asked Gates if the United States would be willing to intervene to relieve long-simmering Indian-Pakistani tensions – something Gates said both countries have expressed they’d rather deal with themselves.

Several of the questions concerned Afghanistan – from Gates’ thoughts about reconciliation with the Taliban, to how to grow and sustain the Afghan national army despite lack of Afghan resources to support the effort.

One of the more provocative participants challenged Gates about the difficulties “the American war” in Afghanistan has put on Pakistan. “The tone of it was, … ‘We are in this mess because of you,’” Morrell said.

Gates “took great exception” to the comment, telling the officer problems created by the Taliban government in Afghanistan, as well as al Qaida and its affiliates, were going to impact Pakistan.

“It was only a matter of time before they were dragged into it as well, because al Qaida had designs on a caliphate” that inevitably included Pakistan, Morrell said. “The notion that you could be immune from them – that grand plan – is not realistic,” he said.

Morrell characterized the session as “very cordial and respectful,” but also “very candid,” with “no-holds-barred questions and answers.”

These, he said, are the kind of engagements Gates seeks out to promote clearer communication and understanding about the United States and its intentions.

“This is all part of his effort to sort of dispel myths, debunk conspiracy theories, puncture rumors and try to be as open and honest as he can be in hopes of trying to get through some of the nonsense,” Gates said. “And I think it’s appreciated.”

Gates was particularly looking forward to his National Defense University visit during his Pakistan visit, Morrell told reporters before leaving Washington.

Pakistani Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani received military education at Fort Leavenworth, Kan. However, as Gates noted during his NDU address, most of the Pakistani forces he leads have had little or no personal interaction with the U.S. military.

Robert M. Gates

Related Sites:
Special Report: Travels With Gates

54 posted on 01/22/2010 10:10:42 PM PST by Cindy
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Related to

India Issues Terror Alert Over Possible Hijacking


U.K. raises terror threat level to ‘severe’


55 posted on 01/22/2010 10:33:01 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Good call! We are soooo scr3w3d.

56 posted on 01/22/2010 10:38:54 PM PST by ColdOne (:^))
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To: SunkenCiv
I've been saving one a little larger:

57 posted on 01/22/2010 11:17:23 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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58 posted on 01/22/2010 11:18:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: ColdOne

President Ubiquitous - a.k.a. P.U.

59 posted on 01/22/2010 11:27:25 PM PST by Thickman (Term limits are the answer.)
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To: ColdOne

This could be a viable option IF (and that’s a huge IF) the Taliban could be trusted to be anything other than violent butchers bent on slaughtering in the name of Allah.

They are not, though.

Not to mention, this could spur a Muslim offensive as in the case of our withdrawal from Mogadishu. They will clearly see that if they can just hold on long enough, we will run away.

However, that eventuality may be unavoidable as Muslims are the biggest $h!t-talkers there ever were, so even if we stayed in Afghanstan for 100 years and finally pulled out, some rock-throwing, cave-living, goat-humping POS would call it a victory for Islam.

The big problem here is that Obama’s only doing it for his own political gain as an expedited “end” to the war, as another FReeper pointed out. Withdraw under the banner of “reconciliation,” the Taliban are our friends, AQ has been wiped out, and Obama has now won the overseas contingency operation.

This cannot possibly end well for us. Even if it takes them a century, they will retaliate. Bet on it.

60 posted on 01/22/2010 11:30:51 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Diogenesis

You know, in the picture with the Saudi king, Obama was really on his way to kneeling before Abdullah stopped him.

61 posted on 01/23/2010 1:02:40 AM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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I think the rag-head was gunna pull his dress up so

O’Bammy could give him a big ‘ol Butt~Smooch !...;0)

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To: ColdOne

This just proves Obama’s an angry Muslim. He is angry at what he perceives as America’s unholy assault on Islam.

63 posted on 01/23/2010 1:15:43 AM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: muawiyah

I wonder when anyone will examine those reporters who probably worked arm-in-arm Hasan.......

hey, I don’t think official “journalistic ethics” (I know, an oxymoron if every there was one) requires protecting a “source” who is a mass murderer???

Supposedly a journalist is not obligated to protect a source who lies, who perpetrates a fraud on the public, and certainly not one who goes on to commit mass murder......

Need to turn up the heat on WaPo, demanding that the public be informed in all details of any contact between WaPo reporters and Hasan, any so-called “information” he may have provided etc.

let’s all look at this: IF indeed the WaPo reporters had any contact at all with Hasan, they are now part of the sordid STORY of Hasan slithering through Walter Reed and then getting posted to Ft. Hood..... “what did those reporters know and when did they know it??” did they have any knowledge of his jihad beliefs? hard to belief he would have left them out of it if he was giving depraved lectures within professional medical settings........

WaPo and its reporters must be publicly bludgeoned to either ‘fess up with all details on Hasan, or else to swear up and down that they are see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil..... and then the slightest evidence of their contacts with Hasan would blow up in their lying faces.

64 posted on 01/23/2010 3:13:37 AM PST by Enchante (Mr. Brown Goes to Washington...... kick a@@, take names, and scorch all the bastards, please!)
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Dana Priest was the lead reporter on the Walter Reed story. She got in a brief piece on the Hasan killings and then she just disappeared from the pages of the WarshPost for a couple of months.

She's since shared a billing on a couple of very small stories.

There seems to have been four WarshPost reporters on top of the Walter Reed deal. Much of their work consisted of simple interviews with patients, and not so simple interviews with un-named staff people.

Given that their work focused on the outpatient mental health operation, as did Hasan's, it is absolutely inconceivable that the "posties" didn't come across Hasan!

I complained to Post management about their problem in covering Hasan and that's when Dana got her plug pulled. At the moment I do believe the Post management thinks the story is kind of disappearing which is why Dana got to sneak back in with a story on something else.

Joe Stalin would have handled her by sending her to the "front" ~ which, in this case, would be the grave sites in Haiti.


Anyway, it's highly likely that Secretary Gates KNOWS what his problem is and is taking actions to make sure he doesn't become a bigger issue.

65 posted on 01/23/2010 5:20:08 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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He said it while he was running, after they threatened him January 21st of last year, October and December of last year as well.

Remember in March, when he and Biden were running around on this and even the Taliban said “WTH is moderate Taliban, no such thing”.

Welcome to FR.

66 posted on 01/23/2010 6:11:19 AM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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To: ColdOne

Not seeing the surprise here, this lametard jack squat administrations, as with most lametard liberal idiots, have long been giving terrorist and terrorist supporting groups and organization a poltical voice.....simply another offshoot of their appease and dialogue strategy of allegedly ending political violence and conflict. Bottom line, it don;t work, but as par, they continue on in their unicorn and rainbow dreams thinking.

67 posted on 01/23/2010 6:16:42 AM PST by cranked
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To: ColdOne

So the inmates will run the asylum, brilliant, just absolutely brilliant!

68 posted on 01/23/2010 6:44:04 AM PST by PORD (People...Of Right Do!)
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