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Psalms banned, but witchcraft OK
World Net Daily ^ | January 19, 2010 | WND

Posted on 01/22/2010 10:26:49 PM PST by little jeremiah

A lower court's "hostility" towards Christianity will stand after the U.S. Supreme Court today refused to intervene in a school district's censorship of a kindergartener's choice of literature for a class reading.

"By refusing to hear Mrs. Busch's case, the U.S. Supreme Court has endorsed the kind of hostility toward religion that should never be found in an American public school," said John W. Whitehead, president of the Rutherford Institute, which took on the Newtown Square, Pa., case.

As WND reported, Donna Busch accepted an invitation to visit her son Wesley's kindergarten classroom at Culbertson Elementary School to read a passage of Wesley's favorite book to his classmates in October 2004. Wesley's teacher had invited Busch because the boy was the featured student of "All About Me," a school event to feature a particular student and emphasize the student's personal characteristics, preferences and personality in classroom activities.

During the "All About Me" activity, a child's parent may read aloud from the student's favorite book. In this case, Wesley, a Christian, chose the Bible. His mother planned to read from Psalm 118.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christianstudents; education; firstamendment; lawsuit; roguecourts; scotus; wallofseparation
Repression of religious expression is not what the First Amendment means.
1 posted on 01/22/2010 10:26:50 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

This is really the root of all our current problems...

2 posted on 01/22/2010 10:30:21 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: little jeremiah

Each and every day I grow happier and happier at the fact that my wife and I had the good sense to send our 5 y.o. daughter to a good catholic school!

3 posted on 01/22/2010 10:30:58 PM PST by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: little jeremiah

I wonder if they would have banned “The New England Primer”

4 posted on 01/22/2010 10:40:02 PM PST by leenie312
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To: PieterCasparzen

Christians founded this republic and atheists will destroy it.

5 posted on 01/22/2010 10:46:11 PM PST by B4Ranch ( "Where's the birth certificate?")
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To: PieterCasparzen

Absolutely right.

6 posted on 01/22/2010 10:54:56 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: little jeremiah
My BS meter is thumping pretty good right now. I just do not believe this story as stated. I would really like to know what book the school administrator reportedly suggested that she read. I would really like to know the exact language/words used in this exchange. This is too canned and just to perfect. BS.
7 posted on 01/22/2010 10:56:52 PM PST by oldenuff2no (I'm a VET and damn proud of it!!! I did not fight for a socialist America!!!!!!!)
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To: little jeremiah

This is so wrong. You would think that those 9 justices who are so blessed by God by bestowing on them to honor and to protect our country and it’s people would not lift a finger.

They will one day be judged not by the people; but by God who they have turned their back on.

8 posted on 01/22/2010 11:47:10 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: little jeremiah

In some California schools they had kids taking arabic names, learning all about how wonderful Islam is and reading the Koran and wearing robes for 2 weeks while they spent 2 days on the terrible stuff in the bible.

Thats called equality.

9 posted on 01/23/2010 12:12:55 AM PST by GeronL (
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To: little jeremiah

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

‘or prohibiting the free exercise thereof’ is the part these people conveniently dispose of. The intent, and they know it, was to prevent what happened in England. It was not to prevent someone from saying ‘God bless you’ when you sneeze. In this case, the Supreme Court derelicted their duty of the office.

10 posted on 01/23/2010 2:20:28 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: oldenuff2no
You could email WND and ask for details.

I've read many, many incidents very similar to this one. So it doesn't seem canned at all.

“Gay” books, Harry Potter books, Halloween stories, Muslim indoctrination are all a-okay. But one little Bible verse or story - picked out by a kid, even? Or drawing of Jesus?

Down comes the hammer! It's a common occurrence.

11 posted on 01/23/2010 9:50:07 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah
I have protested and stopped all islamic doctrine from being delivered in our local schools. We have no argument over that. The trade off is that no religion should be able to be taught in public schools, period.
There is a big difference between Hairy Potter being allowed as fantasy and the bible being presented as doctrine.
This type of situation is usually at the bottom of things. The ultra right wants us all to believe that children are too stupid to know the difference between reality and fantasy.
If that is true, then the original teachers, the parents, didn't do their job. I've also talked to parents who did not want their kids exposed to science, basic grammar school science, because those words and concepts were not in the bible. They had no knowledge what was contained in the program and didn't care. They would rather their children remain ignorant than take a chance that some of the outside world might come in contact with them. I wonder what they are going to do when these kids turn 18.
12 posted on 01/23/2010 11:03:20 AM PST by oldenuff2no (I'm a VET and damn proud of it!!! I did not fight for a socialist America!!!!!!!)
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To: GeronL
During Kwanza, they also take fake African names, spend time learning all about the "steps" of Kwanza.

The leaders of Kwanza proclaim it to be the "black alternative to a white Christmass."

Smells like a religion to me.

13 posted on 01/23/2010 11:10:23 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: oldenuff2no

I wrote this and posted it on another couple of threads in the last two days. It fits here, too.

If we take the word “religion” to be mean a belief system and world view determined by said belief system*, there are two religions in the world. Everyone, regardless of label, falls into one category or another**.

1. Those who not only believe in God, but accept and try to follow the rules set out in the scriptures of the world; which are, in the main, largely in agreement over the basic rules of morality, behavior and values for human society. For instance, prohibitions of sex before and outside of marriage, against homosexual acts, against murder, theft, false witness, blasphemy, and so on. And finer concepts as avoiding lust, greed, anger, envy, covetousness, and so on.

Another aspect of this meaning of religion is the world view that this mortal world is not our eternal home, but a sort of testing ground; with the real home in the eternal Kingdom of God, and that true happiness can be found only in relationship with the Supreme Godhead.

2. The other world view and belief system is based on atheism, hedonism and moral relativity - which is based on hypocrisy, since what it really means is that only their view point is valid.

This world view is not just espoused by outright atheists*** but many who claim to believe in “God” - but the “God” they supposedly worship does not have the actual qualities of God. For instance, various denominations who allow homosexuals to be priests and ministers, consider abortion perfectly okay, and so on. Up to the Metropolitan Community “Church” that is focused solely on homosexuality, or Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity Church which is merely a racist and marxist political group using sort of Christian sounding slogans occasionally.

Religion #2 views this world as all in all, and seeks to find perfection in this world; perfection in their eyes meaning the most enjoyment possible (in their view) before the worms take over. “Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow you die”. There is no God in control (other than a superficial label pinned on), you make your own rules, each sees his own desires and whims as the guiding light in life, or the whims of others who have similar values and world view.

The really bad news is that Religion #2 is completely intolerant of any of the viewpoints, morality or world view of religion #1 having any sway in public life. They pretend that there is “neutral ground” for public life, and that Religion #1 should not have influence over public policy, in supposed deference to “secularism” or “neutrality”.

But, the problem is that there are only two world views, or two religions. If theists cannot influence public life, than atheism and hedonism are the standard. There can only be one standard, there is no neutral ground.

* Of course, there are other meanings of the word “religion” but leaving that for another day.

** I am also leaving Islam aside for now as that is a whole ‘nother category in a sense. Or a subset.

*** An interesting point is that there atheists who are content to live in a world peopled by group #1 with the morals and values of group #1. Such atheists are another subset. :-)

14 posted on 01/23/2010 4:08:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah
Most of what you say I agree with. I have lived outside of the US for many years, some of them in islamic countries.
There are at least as many muslims on this earth as there are Christians. Not dealing with how they think does not make them go away.
To begin with they place no value on non-muslim life. The life and very existence of a Christian just gets in the way of their stated master plan.
The primary purpose of islam is to rule the earth and impose the religion of islam on every person alive.
This is the very public doctrine and words of muslims around the world each and every day. These are words directly from the koran.
Why the western world does not chose to see this as a threat is pure stupidity. I am very guilty of believing that they are going to try and do exactly what they say they are going to do.
15 posted on 01/23/2010 5:39:26 PM PST by oldenuff2no (I'm a VET and damn proud of it!!! I did not fight for a socialist America!!!!!!!)
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To: little jeremiah

Free the First.

16 posted on 01/23/2010 5:46:16 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With God, Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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To: oldenuff2no

I agree with you.

17 posted on 01/23/2010 9:17:06 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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