Posted on 01/24/2010 10:24:57 PM PST by Ready4Freddy
WASHINGTON - For hours after allegedly trying to use a bomb hidden in his underwear to blow up a Christmas Day flight to Detroit, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab talked and talked — to U.S. Customs officers, medical personnel, and FBI agents.
He spoke openly about what he'd done and why, and provided valuable intelligence, U.S. officials told The Associated Press in a series of interviews that spell out for the first time the details of Abdulmutallab's arrest and questioning on Dec. 25.
Badly burned and bleeding, the suspect tried one last gambit as he was taken from the plane: He claimed there was another bomb hidden on board, officials said.
There was no second bomb, federal agents learned after a tense search. But the Nigerian suspect's threat set off a series of conversations that are now the subject of a fierce political debate over the right way to handle terrorism suspects.
The bomb had severely burned Abdulmutallab but he was still conscious. As he was taken from the scene, federal agents repeatedly interviewed him or heard him speak to others. But when they read him his legal rights nearly 10 hours after the incident, he went silent.
The officials who spoke to The AP said on-scene investigators never discussed turning the suspect over to military authorities. And their accounts show that as the hours passed, the FBI turned to its own local expert counterterror interrogators, rather than seek bureau personnel to fly in from Washington or elsewhere.
The officials provided an account of the law enforcement response to the holiday bombing on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to disclose details of the investigation.
Abdulmutallab's attorney, Miriam Siefer, did not immediately return a message left Sunday for comment.
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
Then there's this:
"Those who now argue that a different action should have been taken in this case were notably silent when dozens of terrorists were successfully prosecuted in federal court by the previous administration," Justice Department spokesman Matthew Miller said earlier this week.
But that's hardly the issue, is it, numbnuts?
That was before a military tribunal was set up because Clinton didn’t have it in place.
In the autumn of 2006, the Republican Congress enacted the Military Commissions Act
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Clinton did think about using military tribunals just not on muslim terrorists.
November 15, 2006
The Clinton Era Proposal to Use Military Tribunals on McVeigh and the Militias
Abdulmutallab interrogated for less than an hour; White House defends handling of terrorist case
Saw that, EatB, the mythical ‘50 min’ was FBI only, apparently. The locals got more info from him than the feds.
The Bush administration established the military trial system after the U.S. military began capturing detainees in Afghanistan in late 2001.
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November 13, 2001 by the Associated Press
Bush Orders Terrorist Trials by Military Tribunal
by Ron Fournier
WASHINGTON –– President Bush approved the use of a special military tribunal Tuesday that could put accused terrorists on trial faster and in greater secrecy than an ordinary criminal court. The United States has not convened such a tribunal since World War II.
Bush signed an order establishing the government’s right to use such a court but preserving the option of a conventional trial.
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In December 2006, the Military Commissions Act of 2006 was passed and authorized the establishment of military commissions subject to certain requirements and with a designated system of appealing those decisions. A military commission system addressing objections identified by the U.S. Supreme Court was then established by the Department of Defense.
fyi
I just thought it would be good to link back to earlier versions as they roll out new versions....
I don’t disagree, Ernest, thank you.
The AP article concentrates on what they got from him before the ‘interrogation’ happened, and how they obtained it.
It’s almost like the admin wanted to shut the guy up.
The Nigerian didn't give anyone any useful information. The FBI has him for a whole 50 minutes, and he was heavily medicated.
Experienced interrogators know that the subjects withhold information for long periods of time, so the locals surely didn't extract anything useful. Who are these inept people in the inept administration trying to fool?
They lost the WaPo editorial board today !!!!
OH, you have mail from me, “onyx” not from oynx...lol...no wonder I don’t get your pings, huh?
Al Qaeda must be LAUGHING themselves until they pee their robes. We don’t even know how to HANDLE a terrorist. Is he a criminal? Should he be under military custody? Should we read him his rights? Wait, we need to medicate him and operate on his boo boos to make him all better.
Holy hell, they do not give their captured the same hand-wringing considerations. Daniel Pearl didn’t get an attorney. He sure didn’t get mirandized. Sheesh. We are blooming idiots.
That doesn't appear to be the case, onyx. Besides admitting that he had done it (very handy at trial), telling them about Yemen and al-Queda, he said:
'Shire', and 'Bagginssss'
And what precisely was that supposed to mean?
Do you realize that Al Q purposely feeds their bombers false information as though it were fact for the very purpose of possible capture?
That’s why skilled interrogators are necessary to separate fact from fiction. It most often takes days, weeks, months, and in the case of KSM, water boarding, but the Nigerian is a kid and I seriously doubt that he has much useful information anyway. Maybe what he personally witnessed and his personal training.
'Shire', and 'Bagginssss'?
If you have to ask, you wouldn't appreciate it.
I have to get some sleep. I’ll check this thread tomorrow.
Good night,Ready4Freddy.
I have no idea what ‘Shire’ and ‘Bagginssss’ means, in the form of useful or enlightening information. I have zero trust in the administration and their spin meisters. For that matter, the testimony last week before the senate was outrageous for it’s gamesmanship and “I don’t know, who made the decision to Mirandadize him.” We finally learned it was Holder.
hopefully they stripped him naked , made numerous short cuts with a razor blade and suspended him about 2 feet off the top of a big tank with several large tiger sharks in it .
>medicate him and operate on his boo boos to make him all better.
How sweet. Just imagine what kind of juicy intel one could get from the little
worm if one took the doctor’s forceps and applied variable pressure to his testicles
while slowly peeling off some of that charred flesh from his useless groin.
And no medication until he sings like a canary.
Gee, why would the Detroit office of the FBI have it's own counter terror interrogators?
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