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To: driftdiver

Not every illness is caused by the actions of the sufferer. Some are genetic; some are, yes, environmental. And some are caused by just dad-blame bad luck.

When you find out you have cancer, or have a stroke, it is impossible to pay for it out of pocket. “People will spend money where they place their priorities.” - which is why they have to lose their homes in order to buy their prescription medications to stay alive.

It is God’s blessing that you have never been that ill, or have always been so rich, that you have never had to worry about these issues. Remember how Jesus acted when it came to healing the sick and not casting the first stone. Did He ask whether the leper on the pallet had done anything to get himself infected? No, He simply healed him.

Inness and pain are severe punishments in themselves.


10 posted on 01/25/2010 5:54:16 AM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: worst-case scenario

“Not every illness is caused by the actions of the sufferer. Some are genetic; some are, yes, environmental. And some are caused by just dad-blame bad luck.”

Some are, the majority are not.

“It is God’s blessing that you have never been that ill”

How do you know?

“Remember how Jesus acted when it came to healing the sick and not casting the first stone. Did He ask whether the leper on the pallet had done anything to get himself infected? No, He simply healed him.”

And what is Gods position on people who will not work to feed themselves? Or people that mismanage the financial resources granted to them?

If a person is not willing (not to be confused with unable) to work to feed themselves then they should starve. The majority of people have the ability to buy basic health care insurance, but choose not to.

Yes our system could be improved. Mostly in tort reform and putting more competition for insurance companies.


12 posted on 01/25/2010 5:59:27 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: worst-case scenario

People get sick and die. Get over it. Any fool knows that personal responsibility means putting money away for emergencies and i have no sympathy for someone who will not take care of themselves.

Is that selfish? No. How can one expect to take care of others if they are not prepared to first ensure (Not INsure) their own health to the best of their ability. How on earth can you take care of your loved ones if you are in poor health yourself?

The fact that is getting lost in this “Health care” debate is that insurance companies are for-profit enterprises. The so-called “Health Care Reform” act just seeks to transfer that profit directly to the government along with all the side benefits of complete government control of our lives.

The insurance company is going to make a profit by betting that you will use less $$ in medical services than you pay them in premiums. Betting (Through fear) that you will have a long term life threatening illness that will soak the insurance company is exactly what drives their profits. They KNOW that more people will pay expensive premiums and NOT get sick and they will therefore make a profit. This will work even better when the government takes over.

The way to beat the odds is self inflicted suffering; make yourself sick by living on high fructose, deep fat, cigarettes and booze while living behind a desk and in front of the TV.

...or you can live a healthy lifestyle and put money away for emergencies like Momma taught me when I was ten years old. I, for one, will not bet against myself or deliberately make myself sick in order to beat the odds.

Insurance companies and governments thrive on fear. Health care professionals, no matter how well intentioned, only make money when people are sick. Doctors, paid by the insurance companies, game the system by actively looking for things that they can bill the insurance companies for and long term treatment regimens that will keep the billing flowing.

Insurance is gambling. The insurance company bets you will live a long and relatively healthy life and you bet that you will suffer long term illness requiring expensive treatment that you have not prepared for or taken steps to avoid. As with all gambling, the odds are stacked in favor of the house.

No doubt some worthy here will pipe up with “Yeah, just wait ‘til you get cancer. Then you’ll change your tune.”

My answer to that is - I already had cancer. Put quite a dent in my savings account, but since I have been saving since I was young and since I am now old, I still have enough to take care of myself, and therefore my family, for as long as I am likely to last. Regardless, I would not expect anyone else, and certainly not the government, to take responsibility. That is mine alone.


20 posted on 01/25/2010 9:05:47 AM PST by Chuckster (Domari nolo!)
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