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Over the border, no welcome for Haitians (Dominican Republic)
The Miami Herald ^ | 1/26/10 | Fred Grimm

Posted on 01/26/2010 8:37:04 AM PST by ruralvoter

The sunny, happy Dominican Republic of international tourist promotions seemed a bit less cordial on the road out of Haiti. Along the way, soldiers brandishing black assault weapons manned 11 military checkpoints.

(snip) In December, the Dominican congress approved a constitutional amendment clearly aimed at its 800,000 residents of Haitian descent. When the amendment is finalized, the children of illegal immigrants born in the D.R. will no longer be classified as citizens. Varma said the denial of citizenship not only applies to children of illegal immigrants, but also to subsequent generations. Most ethnic Haitian newborns were already recorded in the D.R.'s so-called ``Book of Foreigners,'' and given a pink birth certificate, rather than the one offered to children from Hispanic families.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbabies; haiti; immigrantlist; immigration
Very soon Bill and Hillary Clinton are going to set up a sanctuary city at their DR beach vacation home for all of the Haitian immigrants. Really, any day now.
1 posted on 01/26/2010 8:37:05 AM PST by ruralvoter
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To: ruralvoter

The ones in America need to go back to Haiti to help rebuild. The Dom Repub has a semi functioning country. Haiti has always been chaos.


2 posted on 01/26/2010 8:39:56 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: ruralvoter; gubamyster; Frantzie; stephenjohnbanker; All

“the children of illegal immigrants born in the D.R. will no longer be classified as citizens.”

The Dominican Republic congress is smarter than ours!

New today from the Center for Immigration studies:

Fact Sheet on Haitian Immigrants in the United States

WASHINGTON (January 25) - Since the terrible tragedy in Haiti, many have sought information about the Haitian community in the United States. Below are some basic socio-demographic statistics:

* The last Census Bureau data (2008) indicates there are 546,000 Haitian immigrants in the United States. That is up from 408,000 in 2000 and 218,000 in 1990.1

* Of the 546,000 foreign-born Haitians in the United States, 48 percent are naturalized U.S. citizens; this compares to 43 percent for the overall foreign-born population.2

* The top states of Haitian immigrant settlement are Florida (251,963; 46%), New York (135,836; 25%) New Jersey (43,316; 8%), Massachusetts (36,779; 7%), Georgia (13,287; 2%), and Maryland (11,266; 2%).3

* Our best estimate is that there are 75,000 to 125,000 illegal Haitian immigrants in the country. In 2000, the INS estimated there were 76,000 illegal Haitian immigrants.4

* When it extended Temporary Protected Status to Haitians, the Department of Homeland Security estimated 100,000 to 200,000 people could be eligible. While most are illegal immigrants, this estimate also includes those on temporary visas such as tourists, foreign students, and guest workers who will not have to go home.5

* Between 2000 and 2008, 183,188 Haitians were given green cards (permanent residence). These figures do not include those who entered on a long-term, temporary basis such as guest workers and foreign students nor does it include short term visitors like tourists. Of those given permanent residence, 135,913 (74 percent) were admitted under family-based immigration.6

* There are 310,000 U.S.-born Americans who have at least one parent born in Haiti.7

* Of Haitian immigrants (ages 25 to 65) 22 percent have not graduated from high school and 18 percent have a college degree. This compares to 9 percent and 30 percent, respectively, for native-born Americans.8

* The share of Haitian immigrants and their young children (under 18) living in poverty is 20 percent. For native-born Americans and their young children it is 11.6 percent.9

* The share of Haitian immigrants and their young children who lack health insurance is 29.5 percent. For native-born Americans and their children it is 12.6 percent.10

* Of households headed by Haitian immigrants 46 percent use at least one major welfare program. For households headed by native-born Americans it is 20 percent.11

* The share of Haitian immigrants who own their own home is 49 percent. For native-born Americans it is 69 percent.12

http://cis.org/HaitianImmigrants


3 posted on 01/26/2010 8:41:29 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: ruralvoter

Why should the DR displace its citizens? Really, using the logic of the open borders big momma libs its Haiti that should open its borders.


4 posted on 01/26/2010 8:42:20 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: AuntB

“Haitian immigrants 46 percent use at least one major welfare program.”

A major reason why Florida is broke.


5 posted on 01/26/2010 8:49:52 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: ruralvoter

The DR is a pretty poor and crappy nation but at least they have national pride and believe in national sovereignty more than we do. The Dominicans are very aware that The Haitians have made a deforested mess of their half of Hispaniola and don’t want the same in the DR

For years I have read that many Haitians get into the DR to cut sugar cane

**** Maybe the DR is fairly livable but I do know it is poor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita

DR is listed a $4600 GDP per capita
Haiti is listed at $800 GDP per capita
Costa Rica, Panama, Bulgaria and Serbia at $6500


6 posted on 01/26/2010 8:52:01 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: ruralvoter

7 posted on 01/26/2010 8:55:37 AM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... www.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: smokingfrog

My sister lived on St. Maarten for 25 years. I got to meet many of the Local Antillians. They hate Haitians.


8 posted on 01/26/2010 8:58:31 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ruralvoter

...given a pink birth certificate, rather than the one offered to children from Hispanic families.

**
I suspect the writer is trying to make it sound like some racist policy. The citizens of the DR are, I suspect, just trying to protect their sovereignty.


9 posted on 01/26/2010 9:03:28 AM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: ruralvoter

Haitians are the Palestinians of the Caribbean.


10 posted on 01/26/2010 9:04:42 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: ruralvoter

Its the difference between viewing yourself as a legal entity, like a county, or seeing yourself as a people.

In a democracy, you share power with your neighbors. But for it to work, you limit it to those people who share the same essential cultural values you do. This is why we have citizenship rules to begin with. This is why foreigners are not allowed to vote. This is why felons are not allowed to vote. In a democracy you willingly share power with your neighbors, but not just anyone, not with people who don’t share your values, and not with people who have misused their citizenship.

Its good for a society to have some porosity, so that travelers can be received into your midst, and as they begin to assimilate and adopt your values as their own, they begin to have a say in how the society operates. But you can’t give power to people in large numbers who don’t share your values because you will lose your self-determination; you will lose your national independence from the inside out.


11 posted on 01/26/2010 9:14:48 AM PST by marron
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To: Frantzie
Meanwhile, half the population of the Dominican Republic are living illegaly in the US. They are hypocrits.
12 posted on 01/26/2010 9:25:08 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: ruralvoter

What do you know, a country that refuses to allow itself to be swamped by illegals and anchor babies. And a third-world country at that. Who’d have thunk it?


13 posted on 01/26/2010 9:29:26 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

But...but...but...how do they keep out illegals? Our government says that’s impossible.


14 posted on 01/26/2010 9:30:21 AM PST by ladyjane
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ping


15 posted on 01/26/2010 9:32:29 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: marron; ruralvoter
It is good for a society to have some porosity, so that travelers can be received into your midst, and as they begin to assimilate and adopt your values as their own, they begin to have a say in how the society operates. But you can't give power to people in large numbers who don't share your values because you will lose your self-determination; you will lose your national independence from the inside out.

I chanced to view one Joy Behar last night on the television, She had on a panel of "experts" including one Joe Klein. They discussed the difference between the success of talk radio conservatives and the loss of Air America. The accusation was made that the conservative talk people always mentioned a vague threat out there. Sort of like a big daddy keeping people on edge.

Behar broke in again and again. She then used the word Xenophobia to describe those who are apprehensive about things. A figment of imagination on their part, no doubt, Joy thinks. I remember reading here of the carnage by illegals from Mexico even confining this to road safety and the unlicensed and uninsured drivers.

Nothing touches old Joy I suppose and Mr Joe Klein. Come one and come all seems to be their watchword. No justice, unless Joy runs into an illegal immigrant and is sued for millions.

16 posted on 01/26/2010 9:46:00 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: gubamyster

Thanks for the ping. Smart Dominicans!


17 posted on 01/26/2010 11:44:06 AM PST by PGalt
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To: ruralvoter
We are the only country stupidly willing to accept un-skilled, illeterate diseased Haitian men women and children. Keep up the good work, Dominican Republic. I’ll give you a two for one trade on national security and national health policy makers !!!
18 posted on 01/28/2010 4:21:41 PM PST by Robert Drobot (Qui non intelligit aut discat aut taceat)
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