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To: Wpin
But, let me ask you...was Roeder justified (doesn’t mean innocent by our nations laws) in stopping a mass killer of babies?

No. If not, what moral basis would you provide for saving lives? At the very least, the murder has to be imminent, with a specific victim or victims in mind.

So, Roeder would have been justified in shooting that guy at Ft. Hood just as he was opening fire up his victims. However, Tiller may have had a change of heart on that Sunday or on the way to work on Monday morning.

They are at arms length from the actual act of killing babies.

Adolph Hitler was always at arm's length of the Nazi Concentration Camp Killing Machine. With that being the case, do you also believe that there would have been no justification in killing Adolph Hitler in 1942?

519 posted on 01/31/2010 8:12:50 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

“No. If not, what moral basis would you provide for saving lives? At the very least, the murder has to be imminent, with a specific victim or victims in mind.”

So, you would not regard a daily practice of killing babies on a daily basis for years...and numbering in the tens of thousands as sufficient? There were specific victims...they were the babies. Roeder himself declared openly in court (and that is why it took so little time to find him guilty of murder) that his motive was to stop the killing of innocent babies. The judge denied him the right to bring in the prosecuting attorneys who prosecuted Tiller for illegal abortions as witnesses. He also ruled that manslaughter was not an option for the jury...something I think can be argued in an appeal. Manslaughter would be based upon Roeder’s obvious motives which he freely stated in court as being to prevent further killing of babies. Even though that is not legal it is a reasonable “reason” for his illegal act. The problem is the pro abortion side cannot allow any leniency of any rights to pro life activists. That is why their freedom of speech and protest are limited in ways others are not. Those who are obsessed with death have no mercy for anyone.

‘Adolph Hitler was always at arm’s length of the Nazi Concentration Camp Killing Machine. With that being the case, do you also believe that there would have been no justification in killing Adolph Hitler in 1942?”

Adolph Hitler was not at arms length, not a good one to use, he was instrumental in the entire war and many many atrocities after all. Perhaps a better one would be to ask, should the German Parliament been held responsible? To my knowledge they were not prosecuted at the Nuremberg Trials after the war. Interesting little fact I was not aware of until this was the initial laws and following decrees depriving Jews of “their rights as human beings” were called the Nuremberg Race Laws of 1935.


525 posted on 02/01/2010 12:44:40 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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