Scott Brown: 'People Aren't Stupid' [a chat with WSJ's John Fund]

Wall Street Journal Online Weekend ^ | 013010 | John Fund

[hershey]

Two thoughts, no, three: Rome wasn’t built in a day, every journey begins with a single step, and what MA did amounts to a miracle.

[Liz]

Here are some of Scott Brown’s positions :

He opposes partial-birth abortion,

He opposes federal funding for abortion,

He supports strong parental notification laws.

Favors adoption instead of abortion.

Brown is against gay marriage. He questions whether global warming is man-made or natural. He does not believe waterboarding is torture. In favor of a strong military. He's a Lieut Colonel in the Army National Guard. A strong 2nd Amendment supporter. Will not allow taxpayers to finance lawyers to defend terrorists.

Scott believes the US Constititution protects Americans only (not foreign terrorists). Will not grant rights and privileges to enemies of the US in wartime.

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SCOTT'S IS HARDLY A PRO-ABORTION POSITION We can't really believe Planned Parenthood, and that ilk, think Scott is in their camp.

Now Scott "says" he supports women's right to choose, but he seems to be rubbing their pro-abort noses in the "right to choose" fallacy b/c he further says:

<< he opposes partial-birth abortion,

<< he opposes federal funding for abortion,

<< he supports strong parental notification laws.

<< says adoption should be encouraged

Scott "says" he supports Roe v. Wade but he has NOT promised to protect abortion rights, and has been endorsed by the anti-abortion Massachusetts Citizens for Life.

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OTOH, Obama is the most radically pro-abortion President in history, and despite his words, all his actions serve to radically increase abortions in America and around the world.

What Obama and Michelle "Believe" re Aborted Babies Born Alive
FR POSTED http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2253212/posts?page=6

In February 2004, US Senate candidate Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the "alarming news" that "right-wing politicians" had passed a law (prohibiting doctors from stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls).

Michelle Obama called partial-birth abortion "a legitimate medical procedure. " She urged supporters to pay $150 to attend a fund-raising luncheon for her husband, who she promised would fight against "cynical ploy[s]" to stop it.

BACKGROUND Legislation was presented on the federal level and in various states called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. It stated all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted. BAIPA sailed through the U.S. Senate by unanimous vote. Even Sens. Clinton, Kennedy and Kerry agreed a mother's right to "choose" stopped at her baby's delivery. The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme. President Bush signed BAIPA into law in 2002.

But in Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. Obama worried aloud that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights.

In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion clinics. BAIPA passed in 2005.........after Obama left.

[Reagan Man]

Thanks for the ping, Liz. Your timing couldn't have been better. I just finished watching the Scott Brown interview with Baa Baa Walters. My first impression. Scott Brown came across like a Rudy Giuliani clone without the chutzpah. A self proclaimed "fiscal conservative" and "social moderate". The same label Rudy Giuliani has applied to himself. Sorry, I was not impressed.

Since my first exposure to Scott Brown on Hannity back on Jan 8th, I've been amused and baffled by the support he's received here on pro-life, conservative FRee Republic. And your support and defense of him, Liz, is even more baffling. You have castigated Giuliani for years, yet you give Brown a pass.

Today Scott Brown reinforced the opinion of many folks and many FReepers. As I posted in #28. "Brown's a Pro-abort northeast liberal, a big govt statist who voted for RomneyCare, who supports states deciding gay marriage rights and believes man is a major cause of global warming. As a candidate Brown accepted serious campaign support from the despicable phony Mitt Romney. The day after his election win Brown was making robocalls for John McCain in Arizona. Also Brown said, not only would be work with Democrats in the Senate, but he'd vote with them on some issues". If that is someone who can support, have at it.

Seriously. You can't be an abortion proponent or take some of the other positions Brown has taken and call yourself a conservative.

When you abandon conservatism and embrace *moderatism*, liberalism wins.

[traviskicks]

Nonetheless, Mr. Brown is clearly sensitive—and a tad defensive—about his state's own universal health-care system. It now covers about 95% of the population; but it has also led to the nation's highest insurance premiums. It is driving hospitals towards bankruptcy and making it more difficult for people to see a doctor. Mr. Brown voted for the system in 2006 when it was proposed by then-GOP Gov. Mitt Romney. "Of course, it can be made better," Mr. Brown says today. "But it was bipartisan and it fit our local needs. We were being eaten alive by health-care costs." Universal coverage hasn't changed that, however.

LOL, I really hope he doesn't try this sort of stuff on a national level.

[Liz]

When you abandon conservatism and embrace *moderatism,* liberalism wins.

Judging from Dems' consternation over Brown's win, and Obama dropping healthcare like a hot potato, I hardly think liberals think THEY won Mass.

I certainly take your comments very seriously since I respect your opinion. However, I can't compare Brown w/ Giuliani.

Giuliani was in the PP vipers' nest, contributed to them, and was honored by NARAL. He appointed homosexuals to top govt jobs (one of them was a convicted pedophile and thief). He lived with a homo couple for awhile. Plus Giuliani was endorsed by the NYC Liberal Party.

As Mayor, Guiliani publicly humiliated his 2nd wife, announcing he was divorcing her at a press conference (he had not told her yet). He then wanted to kick his family out and move his mistress into the mayor's official home..... and on and on and on.

McCain is on my No-Fly list as he is yours. I believe Brown felt obligated to McC since he was one of the few who encouraged Brown's Senate bid when Brown was a nobody. As they say, politics makes strange bedfellows.

OUR ALLIES---tea partiers---strongly supported Brown.

I believe Scott Brown is educable. I will do all I can to reorient him.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>I certainly take your comments very seriously since I respect your opinion.

And I respect your opinion. We both fought the Rooty-Toot forces of evil on FR and had fun doing it. But this is where we part ways. Not only is Brown a Giuliani clone, in some ways he's even more of a Romney clone. Again, you can not be an abortion proponent, support Roe v Wade and abortion on demand, and take some of the positions Brown has taken and be considered a conservative. That is not the way politics works and you know it too.

>>>>>Judging from Dems' consternation over Brown's win, and Obama dropping healthcare like a hot potato, I hardly think liberals think THEY won Mass.

Sorry. I have to agree with Krauthammer. I don't see Obama or the Dems backing off from their agenda and dropping comprehensive liberal health care reform. Brown has even stated his intention in WashDC is to push for health care reform that looks like RomneyCare. That means government mandated and taxpayer subsidized socialized medicine. Fact, 98% of Massachusetts residents are covered by the state plan called the Health Connector and they like it.

>>>>>OUR ALLIES---tea partiers---strongly supported Brown.

I know. That was a HUGE mistake, IMHO.

[the invisib1e hand]

I guess you didn't read the interview. Scott Brown has no problem with Roe v. Wade, the ruling which legalizes abortion throughout an entire pregnancy. Abortion is the taking of an innocent, defenseless human life. It's done for profit.

He also stated plainly that he wants healthcare for all. I've pointed out that this is a socialist position.

And I will say again, socialist economics and abortion are not conservative principles.

You are certainly free to believe in Scott Brown. But don't call it "conservatism." It's not. We all would have agreed, one year ago, that a man with his stated positions was clearly a socialist, a typical Massachusetts liberal. We'd have called him a WASP Obama. But the straight-up marxist obama and his fascist administration have given leftists like Brown cover.

And finally, please, when imply that someone who is not in favor of partial birth abortion is somehow less "pro-choice" or more "pro-life" than those who do is beyond wishful thinking. It's outright denial.