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To: TigerLikesRooster

$1,450 a month for a $100,000 house? huh? from the information in the article, she sounds like a libtard!


9 posted on 01/31/2010 8:05:19 PM PST by robomatik (III %)
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To: robomatik

i imagine that includes taxes and insurance


16 posted on 01/31/2010 8:09:59 PM PST by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve. Is our government our traitor?)
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To: robomatik
She buys the house for 100K. Then as the bubble inflated she refinances at 154K and puts 54K in her pocket. Now that the bubble deflates and the house is worth 120K she walks away because she refinanced at an interest rate that has to be very high.

Bottom line, she sucked 54K out of the bank and now she's leaving them high and dry.

Nice work if you can get it I suppose.

20 posted on 01/31/2010 8:13:02 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: robomatik

Sounds about right... I am in the same spot and going to do the same thing! Only owe 16 more years on a 9% loan with 89k payoff and we have a $1200 payment. I tried for a regular refi 14 months ago, the day my hours got cut to 20 a week... My credit score was a 720 and I was locked in that day on a 4 5/8% Loan. Now My house is only valued at 50k compared to the $250 it appraised at 4 years ago. The bank will not work with me. If they would just give me a current market interest rate and 30 years to pay it off, I could easily pay the 89k I owe them, without any government program... but they would somehow rather take my house and maintain the property for a year while it sits here getting vandalized and then sell it for 40k or less, we have had 2 within half a mile that sold for 17k after the gang bangers and tweekers stole all the copper pipes and wires out of the house, not to mention everything else including carpeting, cabinets and fixtures. Probably would cost more to fix back up than to bulldoze and start over.


84 posted on 01/31/2010 10:24:36 PM PST by AzNASCARfan
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To: robomatik; RegulatorCountry; fireman15; ltc8k6

The $1450/month presumably includes taxes and insurance. Most of the Philly suburbs in which you could buy that large a house, even in poor condition for $120,000 are super high tax counties (and you can be sure the taxes went up during the bubble and haven’t come back down) — the few who are actually paying taxes are forced to support the massive non-taxpaying underclass. In addition, given the age and condition of the house, there’s no way she could get/keep a standard insurance policy on it, so she’s probably stuck with very expensive insurance. Some insurance companies are quick to issue a policy in connection with an initial home purchase, and don’t even bother sending anyone to look at it — then they send someone around a year or so later, and send you a letter demanding thousands of dollars in repairs and upgrades, and cancel the policy if you don’t do them by the demanded date. A couple of years later, they send someone by again and pull the same stunt, demanding repairs and upgrades to things that are exactly the same as last time but weren’t mentioned at all then. Easily a third of that $1450/month could be taxes and insurance — possibly more. And she may have spent a lot of the $54,000 on repairs the insurer demanded, in addition to medical bills for one of the children.

The insurance BS is getting out of control, especially with certain insurers, and this woman doesn’t strike me as sophisticated enough to deal with it effectively. I have two homes in Pennsylvania, both 100+ years old — one is my main residence that I’ve had for 20 years in one of the nicer Philly suburbs, the other is a vacation home in the Poconos which I’ve had for 8 years. I’ve had the same insurer on the first home for the whole 20 years with NO claims, but they just issued me a non-renewal notice after I told them to go jump in a lake with their latest round of idiotic demands — e.g. paint the shed, which is an accessory structure specifically excluded from the coverage, and several other silly demands, yet no request to replace or even just re-shingle the roof of the house, which urgently needs it, and is now in the process of getting it all the way down to replacing all the wood underneath the shingles and adding insulation — i.e. I’m spending $10,000 to do something that’s seriously needed to prevent water damage to the house for the next 30 years, but they want to cancel my policy because I won’t paint the little shed which I plan to replace entirely in a couple of years. They cancelled the policy on the Poconos house a couple of years back, after I finally drew a line in the sand over this sort of nonsense, and I had no trouble replacing it with a policy from a saner insurer. Amazingly, my about to be ex-insurer has never had (nor requested access for) one of their eagle-eyed inspectors inside either of these houses — they just show up when no one’s home, walk around the house and write down a bunch of random stuff to prove to their boss that they’ve actually been there. Heck, if this lady in the article was home when they showed up, she could have spent the whole $54,000 on stupid stuff they demanded, and STILL have “The main toilet is broken upstairs; the roof is leaking into the kitchen ceiling, the ceiling is falling down. The floor in the back room is coming apart”, because none of those things were on the list of repairs demanded and made.

ltc8k6: re “what has the bank been doing since September 2008?” Answer: Counting their blessings that she’s been staying in the house and not trashing it herself or leaving it empty to be trashed and stripped by vandals — they’ve seen what’s happened to homes they foreclosed on after the ex-owners moved out, and they’re not eager to see more of that. We’re talking right next door to Philadelphia here.


95 posted on 01/31/2010 11:27:48 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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