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To: little jeremiah

You know, there have been gays in the military since before George Washington, before Julius Ceasar, since there has been a military. There is no evidence that gays are less brave or inferior soldiers, that I know of. There were gays in your high school locker room, and not just the gym teacher.

As a libertarian leaning conservative, I don’t care what people think or what they do in private so long as it does not affect me or other third parties. (I oppose gay “marriage” for libertarian reasons that I don’t want to get into here.) Freedom does not grant you or me the freedom not to be offended.

Most of the arguments against gays in the military effectively dissolved when women were integrated into male units, an idea I find idiotic on purely practical grounds. I was in the Army with gays and with some partially integrated female personnel. I can assure you that the gays were less disruptive than females.

IMHO, gays in the military do not present a challenge as long as everyone acts like adults. Including the gays. I do not think the same is true of women in the military.


23 posted on 02/03/2010 2:56:00 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Don't blame me, I'm from Massachusetts)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Your philosophy or bias is getting in the way of your seeing the truth. There have been a half dozen or so articles about this in the last week on FR, with many cogent comments - reasons why allowing homosexuals into the military is a bad thing. The majority of those serving in the military do not want open homosexuals in with them.

That is reason enough. But there are many specfic reasons why homosexuals in the military is a bad thing. BTW, women in the military has drawbacks and IMO there should be separate units or whatever the right term is for women, the way there used to be. Women just plain cannot function exactly the same as men, so standards have to be watered down for them and this is bad for morale.

When George Washington was a General in the military, one man was found to be a homosexual and he was drummed out - literally drummed. Homosexuals were punished and rejected from the military. So don’t lie and imply they were accepted.

I do not use the word “gays” because that is a euphamism and a propaganda word stolen from English - now we can’t say “gay” using the real meaning because it now means “sodomy practitioner”. Homosexuals are more promiscuous, more prone to disease, more prone to substance abuse, domestic violence, child molestation, and more. They have the highest rate of AIDS as well as other STDs and for that fact alone are a risk in the military.

So any so-called argument you present will be entirely dismantled by any one of these threads. If you want to support homosexuals in the military then find a thread with a list of reasons why it is wrong and defeat each reason with facts.

But you won’t be able to do it, you support your side with emotion and fact free statements such as “they should act like adults”. Well, homosexuals act like uncontrolled worse than animals so that argument won’t fly.


31 posted on 02/03/2010 8:04:00 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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