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Denver boy, 9, died after state-benefits error denied him asthma medication
Denver Post ^ | February 4, 2010 | Allison Sherry

Posted on 02/04/2010 2:35:27 PM PST by Second Amendment First

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To: CodeToad

Yep, if you can’t afford the kid then be responsible. Don’t put the burden on the taxpayers.


41 posted on 02/04/2010 3:02:52 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Second Amendment First
We don't have sufficient information to say the woman could have gotten the prescription filled by simply paying for it.

Give you an example ~ I need a certain medication. I went on a trip and forgot to take my pills. I went to a pharmacy and asked if they could call my pharmacist and get authorization for 14 pills ~ a very minor fraction of what I needed.

They did that. I got my pills and it was all good.

Little did I know that "the law" requires that when I change pharmacies, even under the conditions I described, I have effectively made a permanent change and will have to go back to my doctor for a new prescription to restart service at my old, local pharmacy.

The "law" that did this to me is called MEDICARE. The bureaucrats don't care one way or the other if I pay for my medications out of my pocket, or the taxpayer's, they've decided that my acquisition of life sustaining medications is a very secondary issue next to the question of WHERE I GO for those medication.

This little boy's medication is more carefully monitored than the stuff I use ~ probably because it costs more AND can be dangerous to some people. It's unlikely his mother could have gotten the medicine ever again if she changed the payment method since that would disrupt the activities of the sleuths looking for misuse.

Someone at Denver's Human Services probably knows the answer ~ and that's going to be that Medicaid reporting requirements supercede the needs of the patients, even in cases where absence of the medication will cause death.

There's no reason Medicaid should be less stringent than Medicare.

42 posted on 02/04/2010 3:03:09 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: AU72

This is true, the welfare set aren’t usually afraid to use the ER as personal doctor’s office and a life threatening emergency like that would push the case to the front of the line.


43 posted on 02/04/2010 3:04:15 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Second Amendment First

I can’t believe she didn’t just have the prescription transferred to another pharmacy. That would have been my response to showing Walgreens the reports that said she had benefits. If they wouldn’t have followed up, I would have found a pharmacy that would.


44 posted on 02/04/2010 3:05:37 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Second Amendment First
although I can't believe the mother did not outright purchase the medication rather than let her child die because "it wasn't covered".

BUMP that.
Democrat parasites have no concept of working, or paying for anything themselves.
They entitled!

45 posted on 02/04/2010 3:06:33 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: AnAmericanMother

The other thing I forgot about Advair is that it is not a “rescue inhaler.” For Advair to work, it requires a daily regimen.

If the kid had gone months without using Advair, it wouldn’t be instantly effective.

I’ve gotten by with a Primatene rescue inhaler. It’s rather nasty, but, it’s better than nothing.

Even at $175/mo., most parents can find it in their budget, if their child needs medication that badly. Plus, if the kid was in that much distress, time to head to the emergency room.


46 posted on 02/04/2010 3:06:57 PM PST by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: muawiyah
Last March, Lucero went to fill her son's prescriptions at a Walgreens near her home in Montbello. A worker there said Zumante didn't have prescription-drug coverage anymore.

Sounds like she had the script in hand, but wasn't willing to pay for it.

47 posted on 02/04/2010 3:07:06 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: randomhero97

It’s really hard to blame someone for taking a goodie that the law itself provides for.


48 posted on 02/04/2010 3:07:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: stylin_geek

ew primatene.
I’ve done that one myself. Nasty stuff.
The Symbicort I just started is almost as bad, though. lol


49 posted on 02/04/2010 3:09:25 PM PST by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: Second Amendment First
You missed my point. I've already found out that if you change the source ~ whether you pay or the government pays, that's the end of the line on your REFILLS.

Remember, live sustaining medicines are more dangerous than Marijuana ~

50 posted on 02/04/2010 3:10:29 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: SJSAMPLE

‘Ms. Lucero needs to be a little concerned as to why she couldn’t provide for her son.’

And where is the child’s father.

I am very sorry for this boy, it must have been a horrible death.

But the responsibility for caring for him lay with his PARENTS. They are the ones who failed.

If his father is dead or somehow seriously disabled, my apologies in advance.


51 posted on 02/04/2010 3:11:28 PM PST by Persevero
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To: Second Amendment First

Advair 2x/day costs about $150/mo. If she worked, I’m sure she paid that much in taxes, but the gov’t of course knew how to spend her money better than she did. Even if she worked, $150/mo might have been out of reach for her. It is for a lot of people. For example, I couldn’t pay that on top of my minimal health insurance that I’ve managed to keep. That’s after my small business went belly-up, again largely thanks to taxes and gov’t stupidity wrecking my customer’s businesses. (Gee, for some reason that really seemed to start happening a lot in 2007 and got worse from there. It’s almost like something happened in late 2006 that was really bad for small businesses. Wonder what it was? /SPIT)


52 posted on 02/04/2010 3:12:34 PM PST by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: Second Amendment First

Why didn’t mom just buy the meds and try to get reimbursed? I’d do whatever I had to do to keep my child alive. There are parts of this story that don’t make any sense.


53 posted on 02/04/2010 3:13:55 PM PST by Millicent_Hornswaggle (Retired US Marine wife)
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To: piytar

I’m on Symbicort, which is about $100 a month before insurance. My lovely insurance company insists that I order a 3 month supply at once. So now we’re at $300 before, around $125 after. Of course, that’s not considering that I’m on 5 such maintenance meds per month. Even after insurance, 5 x $125 is a good bit of change to pay all at once.


54 posted on 02/04/2010 3:14:44 PM PST by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: AU72
Why didn’t she bring him into ER and say my son can’t breath?!

Amen. This story stinks from every angle. Too many lawyers, too many government boobs and too many agendas to figure out where the truth lies.

55 posted on 02/04/2010 3:15:41 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Millicent_Hornswaggle

I agree, I’d sell everything I owned for Rx for my son.


56 posted on 02/04/2010 3:16:15 PM PST by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: Second Amendment First

Nobody denied the boy this medicine. They just didn’t pay for it. Big difference.

Of course, it may still be a problem.


57 posted on 02/04/2010 3:18:19 PM PST by Haiku Guy ("I don't give them Hell / I tell the truth about them / And they think it's Hell" -- Harry Truman)
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To: AnAmericanMother

“This woman just sat around waiting for the government to do something.”

Yup, just as she’s been taught she was entitled to do by the govt run schools, the media, our culture, and now these lawyers.

Socialism kills, first the spirit and eventually the bodies. Death is the inevitable result. Lots of death. The sadest thing? Socialism is often self-inflicted suicide-by-government...


58 posted on 02/04/2010 3:18:29 PM PST by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: machogirl

She got samples. Just not in time. My two had to take Advair along with a nebulizer when the inhaler wasn’t doing enough.
The story doesn’t tell enough to determine just how many ways this child was failed by adults. Not being able to get a human on the phone but once...she should have gone in person.


59 posted on 02/04/2010 3:18:31 PM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: autumnraine
60 doses of the generic Advair is $50 (just checked). Maybe someone could have helped her or something. Wow.

If she spent 60 bucks on ANYTHING in the last month that was not life critical she should be tried for manslaughter.
60 posted on 02/04/2010 3:24:41 PM PST by TalonDJ
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