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Tea Partiers Shouldn't Date the GOP
Cato Institute ^ | February 4, 2010 | John Samples

Posted on 02/05/2010 9:50:07 PM PST by dr_who

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To: Wonder Warthog
You were saying ...

Repeated polls have shown that the majority of voters are conservative.

Well..., it's certainly unfortunate then..., that this majority of conservative voters in our society voted for Obama in this last Presidential election by a plurality of almost 10 million votes... LOL...

61 posted on 02/06/2010 7:27:42 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
"Being chaotic and disorganized and not cohesive, but just dissatisfied and angry and "not going to take it anymore" will not win elections to move a large group of people in a particular direction that they want to go in and succesfully carry them along like that for an extended period of time."

Funny, it worked for the American Revolutionaries. The "Tea Party" is just about at the "committees of correspondence" stage. Give it time.

62 posted on 02/06/2010 7:27:56 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Star Traveler
"Well..., it's certainly unfortunate then..., that this majority of conservative voters in our society voted for Obama in this last Presidential election by a plurality of almost 10 million votes... LOL... "

Wrong. Many conservatives were turned off by the exact fact that another CCR was the candidate, and stayed away. Palin was turning it around, but too little, too late. And McCain screwed up badly. Do not confuse a "majority of voters" in the last election with a majority of eligible voters. Those are two VERY different populations.

63 posted on 02/06/2010 7:33:10 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
You were saying ...

Funny, it worked for the American Revolutionaries. The "Tea Party" is just about at the "committees of correspondence" stage. Give it time.

I'm not saying that it can't happen and it won't get organized and that they won't have leaders and that people won't move in a major political block that will take control over the infrastructure of the government... not at all...

It can happen...

I'm saying that if it "doesn't happen" -- it's going nowhere...

64 posted on 02/06/2010 7:34:58 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Wonder Warthog
You were saying ...

Wrong. Many conservatives were turned off by the exact fact that another CCR was the candidate, and stayed away. Palin was turning it around, but too little, too late. And McCain screwed up badly. Do not confuse a "majority of voters" in the last election with a majority of eligible voters. Those are two VERY different populations.

Okay..., I think I've got it now...

There really was a majority of conservative voters that could have kept Obama out of office... but they decided to stay home (or didn't vote in that part of the election and still voted for others) and gave the Presidency to Obama...

Yep... that makes perfect sense now... LOL...

65 posted on 02/06/2010 7:37:34 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SandRat

Very good... LOL...


66 posted on 02/06/2010 7:38:42 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Roccus

Did you ever make phone calls for your favorite candidate? Did you knock on doors or stand on the street corner? Did you put a sign in your yard? Did you write a letter to the local paper?

I have personally talked to thousands of self identified independents on phone banks. They think what I am doing is (expletive deleted). And some tell me to get them off my list and get the (expletive deleted) off their phone. Do you think they would lift a finger for any candidate? Have not seen it yet. However this Tea Party movement gives me hope.


67 posted on 02/06/2010 9:08:53 AM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fascism.)
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To: gman992

>This is where all the Republicans are worried that a third party will split the vote, keeping the Dems in power...<

It could happen that way. We have to force the GOP to run more conservative and hold them to OUR standards of governance.


68 posted on 02/06/2010 9:29:47 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I agree.

The media is not our friend period.


69 posted on 02/06/2010 9:32:59 AM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: jonrick46
Did you ever make phone calls for your favorite candidate? Did you knock on doors or stand on the street corner? Did you put a sign in your yard? Did you write a letter to the local paper?

1) Not for, to.
2) No
3) No
4) Yes
5) I've donated

I lived in NYC until 02. The NY GOP put up such fine candidates as Rockefeller, Javits, Pataki, Wilson, and Lindsey. 'Though I voted for 'em (except Lindsey) I really couldn't get behind any of them. Remember, it was the NY GOP that gave us Skeefoza.

Now I'm in WV where being only a "dern feriner", my participation, except for $$, is not appreciated. That's OK by me. After seeing the scam the WV GOP pulled last Super Tuesday with its first time ever "WV GOP Presidential Convention" that all but assured a McCain national victory, I think I'll stay independent.

70 posted on 02/06/2010 10:01:03 AM PST by Roccus (ABLE DANGER?????...................What's an ABLE DANGER???)
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To: Star Traveler
"There really was a majority of conservative voters that could have kept Obama out of office... but they decided to stay home (or didn't vote in that part of the election and still voted for others) and gave the Presidency to Obama..."

LOL all you like. That is precisely what happened.

71 posted on 02/06/2010 10:42:58 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
You were saying ...

LOL all you like. That is precisely what happened.

And that was my point... so...

Thanks y'all -- for Obama... LOL...

72 posted on 02/06/2010 11:04:20 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Post Toasties
Nonsense. You who want to split the Republican Party are the Democrats best hope.

I have no desire to split the Republican Party nor am I interested in promoting the Republican Party. I'm interested in promoting Conservatism. By the way, what's the difference between Republican Arlen Specter and a DemocRAT? What's the difference between a Republican Michael Bloomberg and a DemocRAT? What's the difference between a Republican DeeDee Scozzafava and a DemocRAT? At least we know RATS are RATS. I've got no sense of loyalty for anyone just because he or she has an "R" next to his or her name. If you want to send money to a box of rocks with the letter "R" printed on it, by all means, do so.

In case you missed it, it was Republicans, not Libertarians nor Anarchists nor Tea Partiers who saved the day in 1994, after Perot screwed it up in 1992.

CONSERVATIVISM saved the day in 1994. It just happened that those Republicans were Conservatives. Until they got Washingtonized.

So, if you can't recruit comparable number of Democrats as well as Republicans, what good are you?

See questions above.

73 posted on 02/06/2010 1:57:18 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Star Traveler
"And that was my point... so... Thanks y'all -- for Obama... LOL... "

Don't say y'all, buddy. I voted, and for McCain, through the sound of shattering teeth.

The fact of the matter is that though the majority of the population is conservative, it is also true that they do NOT follow politics, and thus could be misled in the last election by the concerted propaganda of the news media. But I also think that a great many of those folks have figured out just how badly they were fooled, and are waking up. The "Tea Party" movement is just and indication of that awakening.

74 posted on 02/06/2010 7:14:44 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Texas Eagle
Good. The time to threaten The Stupid Party with a third-party candidate is before the primaries.

BINGO!!!! A truer plan has never been put forth, IMO!!!

75 posted on 02/07/2010 12:38:23 AM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: dr_who
"fundamentally illegitiment"?

How about this little phrase, anybody ever heard this one before?

"We the people ..."

76 posted on 02/07/2010 2:26:24 AM PST by exnavy (may the streets run red with the blood of tyrants, and may the Lord have mercy on us)
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To: gman992
You talk about “splitting the vote” as if the Republicrats are themselves conservatives who, as such, now own all conservative`s votes, they are and do not. Regardless of whether a MORE liberal party like the Rats win, the GOP IS a less liberal party asking for conservatives to vote the lesser of TWO evils. Lets get that straight before the debate starts.
77 posted on 02/07/2010 6:15:55 PM PST by nomad
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To: dr_who
"No doubt many Republican leaders would like to direct the energy of the Tea Party against the Obama administration and to receive the votes of these idealists come November.

We pray thee, Tea Partiers: Do not go there."

Count me in as one of the "we" in the prayer.

I am not really associated with the movement, but in spirit only, which is where I would guess many more Americans find themselves.

But I am an ardent detractor of all political party's, especially the two that have brought this once great Republic to the brink of disaster on so many fronts!

78 posted on 02/08/2010 11:59:58 AM PST by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: dannyboy72a

Finally some one on this “conservative” forum (not GOP) that gets it! Well said!!!!!!!


79 posted on 02/08/2010 12:03:46 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: nomad
"Hey, vote for me! Why? Well, uh, lemme think,

still thinking

still thinking

oh yeah, I forgot for a minute, I am not a Democrat!"

80 posted on 02/08/2010 12:38:59 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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