[Flycatcher]

This is why I don’t trust Cato and I don’t trust libertarians.

I'm with you.

In fact, I don't trust anyone who cowardly flees from the label "social conservative."

[corkoman]

In fact, I don't trust anyone who cowardly flees from the label "social conservative."

I dont trust anyone who wants to control others.

Fiscal conservative? = you bet. Social conservative = what does that mean exactly? Beyond the traditional definition of marriage, what exactly does that constitute?

There seems to be a unquenchable desire for people, who otherwise espouse freedom and liberty, to try and control others.

I look to the libertarians to check that tendency in Republicans.

[Pelham]

That Cato/libertarian crowd isn’t fleeing social conservatism out of fear. They are openly hostile to social conservatism’s values.