Posted on 02/08/2010 9:57:05 AM PST by ethical
How did he last so long on FR?
Very interesting posting history kAnknor has there......
We know why of course - there’s legitimacy in numbers. The higher the percentage, the stronger the argument that it’s normal. I also believe that this is designed to embolden the actual percentage into activism.
“How did he last so long on FR?”
By staying in the closet? Be careful, he’s gonna come out swinging.
You overlook my posts stating flatly that child porn, child abuse, public indecency are to be condemned and treated with the harshest of means. Even to the point of my volunteering to use the dull knife to personally cure the problem of a known pervert.
No matter. Pointing to an entire group of people and accusing them of crimes based not on an individual's actions, but on a private sexual preference is more important and makes you feel good.
I can be a target. I've been one before. I've been HERE a long time, I've $upported FR a long time, and I will continue in spite of narrow minded folks like you.
Thank you for your current service. I do appreciate that.
Please remember that a major part that service is to protect and defend the free exchange of ideas, not to promote witch hunts against those you disagree with.
JD
MSgt, USAF Retired.
Except that it's not private any more when they are pushing for special privileges, special rights, recognition of their perverted, immoral lifestyle as normal, taught in schools, sanctions in legalized marriage, health benefits, death benefits, etc.
If they didn't go around shoving it in everyone else's faces and demanding special treatment and acceptance, I doubt anyone would much care.
We care when they are out, bent on actively destroying the moral base and foundations of our culture and society.
“Pointing to an entire group of people and accusing them of crimes based not on an individual’s actions, but on a private sexual preference is more important and makes you feel good.”
Although someone already pointed this out, you obviously missed it.
He wasn’t accusing anyone of crimes based on the group they belong to. He was giving statistics about a group of people and citing the sources. If you want to disprove his statistics you are welcome to. He is not doing what you accused him of doing. It is really no different than citing those same statistics for heterosexuals or males or females or any ethnic group.
Homosexuality is not a private sexual preference, it is a perversion and it used to be classified as a mental disorder. I have homosexuals in my family and I love them. I am not homophobic. I will not however affirm their perversion as normal. That is not love that is enabling. The truth is that homosexuality is not healthy (physically or emotionally).
You nailed it, metmom.
The abortion mills make millions of dollars off it, that's for sure.
Funny -- I say the same thing about Christianity.
When is serving in the military a special privilege? I agree that nobody should have special privileges over anyone else. But the thread was about gays in the military, not special privileges or special rights.
"Perverted, immoral lifestyle" is an opinion. An opinion rooted in the Victorian era that gave us the morality that any sex not in the missionary position, between a man and a woman done expressly and only for procreation was itself perverted and immoral. By that definition, widely held not very long ago at all, any of us here who've have sex with a condom, or after a vasectomy or tubal ligation or while on the pill are in the same boat as you are putting gays today. Let's not even go onto the moral history of oral sex (Is it sex again?) :)
Difficult to argue opinions, they do not change easily. I'm not trying to do that here. Just trying to see past the issues to the place we all agree, or at least say we do. The freedom to live as we wish, be who we are, and coexists with others.
As long as an individual breaks no law, that individual deserves the same freedom and rights as anyone else living without breaking the law. To tell a person "No" because they belong to a group is not part of my thinking.
Serving in the United States Armed Forces IS a special privilege. No one has the "Right" to serve. Additionally, you don't reenlist without your commander's approval nor are you promoted without your commander's approval.
That's something any Air Force retiree should know...
He wasn’t accusing anyone of crimes based on the group they belong to. He was giving statistics about a group of people and citing the sources.
True, except it was not a stand alone post. It appears to be a form he posts in every gays rights based thread to prevent those rights. In this particular case it was used as proof that gays should not be allowed openly in the military.
So while it is true in the literal sense that he is not pointing to any individual as a criminal, he is arguing for the prevention of individuals in that group from having the same access to serving as anyone else.
Please stop pinging me to this thread. I get too many pings already.
Serving in the military is a privilege. Not everybody gets to do it. People are excluded for a variety of reasons.
Gays already have all the rights they need that are accorded to any other citizen of this country.
If they’d just keep their mouths shut about their personal lives, while people might suspect, nobody would KNOW and that would end the alleged discrimination against them.
Gays make themselves obnoxious pests demanding special rights and then play the martyr when nobody else wants to give in to their selfish demands.
All lifestyles are not equal. Homosexuality is wrong morally and it’s even wrong biologically. It is not normal.
Life isn’t fair and it’s not our responsibility to make it fair for anyone who comes whining that they don’t like things as they are.
Get over it.
kAcknor,
I guess I’ll just have to be the first to ask you this question.
Are you gay?
LOL
I was wondering if anyone would ask. I figure many were already wondering or assumed that I was.
No. Not at all. Not a tendency, thought, or (shudder) desire to experiment.
Male, married 35 years with 2 kids and 6 grandkids and very, very heterosexual.
I just dislike group politics and group think.
There are too many posts on FR without links!
The whole problem with the gays serving *openly* in the military, is that the point of being in the military is to serve and defend your country.
Your sexual preferences shouldn’t enter into it. The only reason I could see that gays wanted to serve *openly* is so that they could solicit sex without fear of recrimination.
The military isn’t supposed to be a unlimited source of potential partners for someone to pick from. If heterosexuals are expected to behave themselves in regards to sex so should homosexuals be. And it has to be bad for morale for all the normal guys to be getting hit on by the gays.
If the gays really believed the crap they feed everyone about how what they do in the privacy of their own bedrooms is nobody else’s business, then they need to keep it that way and not demand that everyone else ignore what they want to openly flaunt. Keep it in the bedroom and don’t demand to be *allowed* to serve openly. That’s NOT keeping it private.
If they’re not going to keep if private then they just need to learn to deal with the unfavorable reactions.
Gays are such hypocrites in that area.
What if someone practices bestiality? Should that stop them from entering military service?
Afterall, you say that when we refer to something as a "perverted lifestyle" it is nothing more than an opinion. Is the armed forces right or wrong if someone is discharged from military service for buggering an animal?
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