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To: allmendream
ID absolutely claims that the physical laws the “designer” put into place were insufficient for life to develop without direct intervention by the “designer”.

No. ID claims that things that are designed have distinct characteristics and if these characteristics are contained in an object the inference of design should be made.

Life has these characteristics hence it should be inferred life is designed.

Neither the designer nor the means of design are not addressed. There is no supernatural involved.

You, however, seem to be claiming that the laws of physics are sufficient for the development of life. Can you show how life occurred using the laws of physics?

If you can't, how is accepting this not a statement of faith and how is demanding the claim not be questioned not the imposition of a theological dogma?

57 posted on 02/10/2010 7:05:19 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama Is An Obstructionist)
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To: Tribune7
Because the operating assumption of science is that the laws of reality are sufficient to explain reality.

That is not a theological assumption, it is the only basis upon which science can perform or advance.

If everything that developed according to natural laws is designed, wouldn't everything in the universe have these distinct characteristics?

What wouldn't have these distinct characteristics of being designed?

What in this universe are you saying was NOT designed by God?

59 posted on 02/10/2010 7:13:01 AM PST by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Tribune7; All

“Neither the designer nor the means of design are [not?] addressed. There is no supernatural involved.”

However, the Republican appointed Judge in the Dover case did come to the conclusion that ID was being used as a stalking horse for religion, thus the decision to refuse ID equal standing with science. Furthermore, the religiously oriented people who pushed the case made fools of themselves by lying on the stand. Something which seriously annoyed the Judge. It was also shown that previous creationist literature had been basically rewritten by replacing the more religious wording with ID.


92 posted on 02/17/2010 6:28:33 PM PST by gleeaikin
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