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Paul Kengor is professor of political science at Grove City College. His books include The Judge: William P. Clark, Ronald Reagan’s Top Hand (Ignatius) and The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism (HarperPerennial).
1 posted on 02/11/2010 1:54:00 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 02/11/2010 1:54:34 PM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

Pelosi must really be ticked off that she can’t control Rome.


3 posted on 02/11/2010 1:58:22 PM PST by RC2
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Murders, rapists, and pedophiles exercise their free will, too. I guess as long as no one forces you to murder, rape, or sexually molest children, it is okay.
4 posted on 02/11/2010 2:00:41 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: NYer

To oput it simply Pelosi has denied the Church to gain political power.

She has sold out God for power.

She still believes the Catholic Church teaching,but she thinks somehow she can talk herself into Heaven by showing St. Peter what a powewrful woman she as on earth.

Rot’s; O’ Ruck Nancy, you cannot BS the Lord.


5 posted on 02/11/2010 2:03:46 PM PST by Venturer
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It is too bad that Pelosi’s Mother didn’t have the right to choose.


6 posted on 02/11/2010 2:05:03 PM PST by Redleg Duke
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It sounds like arrogant Nancy Leather-face wants the church to fall in line and become pro abortion just like her. She's as cracked and ugly on the inside as she is on the outside.
7 posted on 02/11/2010 2:06:27 PM PST by peeps36 (Democrats Don't Need No Stinking Input From You Little People)
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“I have some concerns about the Church’s position respecting a woman’s right to choose,” she shared, as if endeavoring to correct the Church’s errors — but not without a heavy heart: “I practically mourn this difference of opinion.”

The Nerve!

8 posted on 02/11/2010 2:07:15 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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"But, she proclaimed, “To me it isn’t even a question. God has given us a free will.”

I don't even follow this "reasoning". She seems to be saying that since we have free will we can do whatever we want. Thus, nothing is a "sin" because we do everything as a result of our personal decision making process (fee will). This contradicts just about every single page of the Bible.

9 posted on 02/11/2010 2:22:29 PM PST by circlecity
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“To me it isn’t even a question. God has given us a free will.”

We have free will to choose to do good or to do evil. The right of choice does not eliminate the consequences of choosing evil. Pelosi seems to believe that because we can choose then no choice is worthy of approbation.

11 posted on 02/11/2010 2:33:26 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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Good post here.


13 posted on 02/11/2010 3:16:55 PM PST by secret garden (Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice.)
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How can someone write have an article like this and not even mention her Archbishop at all, and what he has done or not done as concerns Pelosi?

IT IS THE BISHOPS FAULT. It is a scandal that dwarfs the homosexualist priest scandal. By not treating abortion as what the bishops say it is, they are telling Catholics by their lack of discipline that it must not really be that big a deal. And if abortion is what the bishops say it is, then it really is a big deal.

Let’s change her quotes about abortion to something else abhorent and see if the bishops would tolerate it:

“I have some concerns about the Church’s position respecting a woman’s right to choose to eat human flesh.”

“women should have that opportunity to exercise their free will, and partake in cannibal feasts”

Pelosi regretted that her family is “very anti-cannabalism” and would “like it if I were not so vocally pro-cannabalism.”

To me it isn’t even a question. God has given us a free will to eat human flesh or not”

If the debate was about cannabilism, do you really think the bishop’s would tolerate Catholic leaders being for cannabalism?

Freegards, thanks for all the awesome pings


14 posted on 02/11/2010 3:39:48 PM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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**This difference of opinion was most lamentable, added the lifelong Catholic**

The difference of opinion was most understandable — considering the life of the newborn child, added the liefelong Catholic.

There — fixed it! LOL!

If that were only her view......sigh.....instead she is a CINO.


15 posted on 02/11/2010 8:24:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Educate yourself, Nancy. We do!

enter the Table of Contents of the Catechism of the Catholic Church here

1: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2271  (618 bytes )  preview document matches
1 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion,
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2271.htm
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2: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2272  (580 bytes )  preview document matches
2 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2272.htm
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3: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2322  (290 bytes )  preview document matches
2 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3),
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2322.htm
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4: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2274  (554 bytes )  preview document matches
gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2274.htm

16 posted on 02/11/2010 8:25:31 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I just found this great quote and it fits this situation! Does it fit this situation or not? LOL!

Mysteries in religion are measured by the proud according to their own capacity;

by the humble, according to the power of God;

the humble glorify God for them,

the proud exalt themselves against them!.

-- John Henry Cardinal Newman


17 posted on 02/11/2010 10:14:17 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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This woman is terribly in need of prayer.


18 posted on 02/12/2010 5:12:26 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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