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Gone fishing: Secret hunt for a sunken Soviet sub
AP/Yahoo ^ | 2-14-10 | CALVIN WOODWARD

Posted on 02/13/2010 9:22:14 AM PST by Vaquero

WASHINGTON – In 1974, far out in the Pacific, a U.S. ship pretending to be a deep-sea mining vessel fished a sunken Soviet nuclear-armed submarine out of the ocean depths, took what it could of the wreck and made off to Hawaii with its purloined prize.

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Nice to know the Nixon/Ford team were out to protect American interests....not like some POSOTUSs out there today.
1 posted on 02/13/2010 9:22:15 AM PST by Vaquero
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of course the MSM crap merchants not only downplay the success, but make it a negative achievement

the MSM like common dung beetles....wander aimlessly, head in the sand....moving backward...while pushing their crap and hoping it sticks to something.....

2 posted on 02/13/2010 9:25:01 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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Read the book Blind Man's Bluff: The Untold Story of American Submarine Espionage for a facinating history of covert US submarine operations, including this Soviet Sub hunt by Howard Hughes.
3 posted on 02/13/2010 9:26:53 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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I don’t know how many people were on board this sub but the fact that recovered 6 meant they didn’t get a whole lot of it.

Now of course they don’t say which part of the sub they got. Since they got a couple of torpedoes it sounds like they may have gotten part of the bow section and torpedo room. We still don’t know.

I know this was an incredibly risky venture with a chance of incredible payout or a complete bust. I can’t fault the government for rolling the dice on this one and bringing up a relatively intact Soviet boomer or guided missile sub.


4 posted on 02/13/2010 9:28:43 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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This is an interesting story. The sub broke in half as it was pulled up and apparently the part we most wanted was the one that fell to the sea bottom so the whole thing was a disappointment. The bodies of several soviets were found in the wreckage and the crew gave them a proper burial at sea with military honors and a brief service in Russian, which they video taped and years later, after the story was out, provided to the Russian government as a token of respect and to show that their people were treated with dignity and respect.


5 posted on 02/13/2010 9:29:46 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Vaquero
This story is detailed in Blind Man's Bluff
6 posted on 02/13/2010 9:34:16 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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Additional thread:

CIA opens files on project to raise sunken Soviet submarine

8 posted on 02/13/2010 9:34:39 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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What they don't mention , is the sub broke apart BECAUSE one the grappling claws failed at a weld point, thus the sub wasn't properly cradled
9 posted on 02/13/2010 9:35:39 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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Ya gotta make mistakes and get your hands dirty to make progress.


10 posted on 02/13/2010 9:37:42 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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A better alliteration would have been: “Secret Search Seeks Sunken Soviet Sub”.


11 posted on 02/13/2010 9:39:13 AM PST by RoadTest (The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple. Ps. 119:130)
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12 posted on 02/13/2010 9:43:11 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Deep Six

September 09, 2008
Joe Massucci

A lost Soviet submarine. A mad, reclusive billionaire. A dangerous covert salvage from the bottom of the sea. A Cold War espionage thriller? No, it’s the true story of a unique recovery ship that’s now getting a new lease on life with oil and gas companies.

The Glomar Explorer is a massive 618-foot-long, 50,000-ton deepwater drilling vessel, which BP contracted to carry out drilling operations in its Gulf of Mexico Atlantis oil field. However, the ship was originally designed for a far different mission. Built during the 1970s for tycoon Howard Hughes, her space-age claw would pluck precious minerals from the deepest ocean floors.

Or so the world was told.

The story of the Hughes Glomar Explorer actually began back in February 1968, when K-129, a Soviet Golf-class submarine, disappeared mysteriously in the Pacific Ocean some 600 miles northwest of Hawaii. Despite an intensive search, the Soviets couldn’t find a trace of their sub. But thanks to a top-secret naval intelligence system based in Pearl Harbor, the United States Navy knew that K-129 had sunk. And, more important, where.

K-129 carried the Soviet’s latest nuclear missiles and torpedoes. She also carried their most advanced navigation system, coding devices and code books. If the sub could be salvaged, it would be the intelligence coup of the Cold War.

There was one problem. The sub lay on the bottom in 17,500 feet of water – more than three miles down. And experts said it couldn’t be salvaged.

Raising the beast

The CIA ignored the experts and hired Houston-based Global Marine Inc. to raise K-129. Because no submarine could operate at that depth, a special salvage ship had to be built that would incorporate radically new technology – all under the cover of reclusive billionaire Howard Hughes’ seabed-mining venture.

However, the ship couldn’t lift the submarine alone. A submersible mining barge equipped with a massive claw positioned beneath the ship would serve as an underwater platform to lift and then as a hanger to hide the recovered submarine.

If the Soviets discovered the ship’s true mission, the Hughes Glomar Explorer could be sunk.

The vessel’s crew faced hazards that would sober even the bravest. First, the nuclear warheads, exposed to immense water pressure, might be unstable and could possibly explode during retrieval. Perhaps even more dangerous, the salvage crew would be alone on a vast ocean. If the Soviets discovered the ship’s true mission, the Hughes Glomar Explorer could be sunk.

And, finally, there was the weather. If a storm hit while lifting K-129, the pipe string could snap, tearing the ship in half.

Heavy lifting

By June 1974, after extensive preparations, the Hughes Glomar Explorer and the submersible barge were ready. By now Howard Hughes was a madman in failing health, and President Richard Nixon had resigned in disgrace. The Cold War raged on.

The Hughes Glomar Explorer moved into position over the wreck in July. But President Ford didn’t grant permission to begin the operation until August 11. Working under immense time pressure because of a rapidly closing weather window, “Project Jennifer” was carried out over the next month. Soviet spy ships arrived and began circling – and watching.

The massive claw with its hydraulic fingers grappled the sub, and lifting began. Slowly the submarine was hoisted from the seabed. When the ship was carrying the full weight of the sub, 2,500 tons, she sat seven feet lower in the water. The operation continued until the wreck was some 5,000 feet from the surface. Then disaster struck.

Part of the claw broke off and the wreck began to disintegrate. A nuclear missile slipped from its launch tube and tumbled back to the seabed. There was no detonation. A nervous crew continued lifting. The remaining section of the sub was small enough to fit into the ship’s “moon pool,” a huge opening in the center of the ship, where it was dissected and analyzed.

Cover blown

The world remained in the dark about the ship’s true mission, which the CIA code-named “Project Jennifer.” However, that changed when four burglars broke into Hughes’ office and stole thousands of dollars in cash and files about the project, scattering papers as they fled. Assuming the files contained business documents, the thieves demanded a million dollars for their return. The FBI and the Los Angeles police were brought in.

Most of the documents were ultimately recovered but, despite tight secrecy, details leaked to the media. In February 1975, Jack Anderson’s column in the Los Angeles Times broke the story of Project Jennifer to the world. The ship’s cover was blown, and plans to return that summer to recover the remainder of the wreck were abandoned.

Exactly what the US Navy recovered remains a debate even today. Some say that the entire submarine was raised and that the claw-breaking story was further “cover.” Officially, only the forward 38 feet of the submarine was salvaged, and with it a pair of nuclear-tipped torpedoes, several encoding devices, various code books and the bodies of six sailors, which were given a solemn Soviet burial at sea. In 1993, then-CIA director Robert Gates gave a videotape of the burial to Boris Yeltzin, the former Soviet leader, as a confirmation that the Cold War was over.

Other missions

So what became of the Hughes Glomar Explorer?

She was transferred to the Navy in 1976 where she stayed essentially mothballed for the next 20 years. Global Marine, one of the largest offshore drilling contractors in the world, came up with a better idea. In 1996, the company signed a 30-year contract with the Navy to lease the vessel and totally recondition and convert her into a one-of-a-kind deep-sea drill ship.

After $180 million in conversions, the ship, renamed simply the Glomar Explorer, can drill in 7,500-foot waters and, with some modification, up to 11,500 feet – 2,000 feet – deeper than any existing rig.

Now retired from CIA service, the Glomar Explorer, whose very name recalls Cold War intrigue and adventure, is no longer salvaging sunken submarines. Still a proud vessel, she’s now contracted to companies like BP, helping them find oil in the Gulf of Mexico’s ultra deep water.

This article originally appeared in Beyond magazine, Fall 2001.

13 posted on 02/13/2010 9:44:10 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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On Wikipedia...

USNS Glomar Explorer (T-AG-193)


14 posted on 02/13/2010 9:45:30 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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The Hughes “Glomar Explorer”

K-129, a Soviet Golf-II Class submarine, sank in the Pacific on April 11th, 1968 with a full complement of nuclear ballistic missiles on board. The CIA concocted a plan to enlist the billionaire Howard Hughes to build a ship that would be capable of lifting the sub off the ocean floor 17,000 ft. below.

It had long been known the ocean floor was littered with chunks of magnesium mixed with other useful metals. Hughes made it known that he was going to build a ship The Hughes Glomar Explorer for the purpose of harvesting these metals. Other mining companies were so taken in that they began their own deep-sea mining operations. In fact, the entire enterprise was a cover for the CIA.

In June of 1974, the completed Glomar Explore attempted to lift the ship. It was partially successful, as the sub broke apart during the operation. Only part of the sub was ultimately recovered - including the bodies of 8 Soviet sailors who were filmed being buried at sea in a bizarre ceremony. What materials were actually recovered are still classified. More details can be found here.

One wonders who the CIA could even turn to these days to pull off that sort of an undertaking. The bottom line is: they just don’t make billionaires like they used to; do pompous blowhards like Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle, or geeky shut-ins like Steve Case of AOL and Michael Dell of Dell Computer even hold a candle to Howard Hughes?

15 posted on 02/13/2010 9:46:36 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Hmm...

To comment or not to comment....

What the heck.

As a kid I happened to have known the Hughes person handling funding and the fellow with the engineering company that designed the gear to pick large things up. Let's call them C and B. C is dead, B is still alive and well in Belize I hear. Probably in a bar right now. He made buckets of money working on the project.

C and B were up to their eyeballs in Jennifer. Sometimes they and my folks would go out and party a bit. I was just a kid under foot. I remember them talking about the project several times after a few too many. B would go down to South America often while working on the project.

I never really understood what they were talking about until many years later. Today, if I google either mans full names and "Glomar Explorer" or any of the other key words I might think of nothing comes up.

The project was a success. They got the whole boat.

16 posted on 02/13/2010 9:48:16 AM PST by isthisnickcool (GIVE ME YOUR MONEY B***!! - President Obama)
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Don't forget ole Howard Hughes, too... :-)


Howard Hughes

"I am determined to elect a president of our choosing this year and one who will be deeply indebted, and who will recognize his indebtedness. Since I am willing to go beyond all limitations on this, I think we should be able to select a candidate and a party who knows the facts of political life....If we select Nixon, then he, I know for sure knows the facts of life."

-- from handwritten memos by Howard Hughes, early in the 1968 presidential campaign

17 posted on 02/13/2010 9:50:07 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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You were saying ...

The project was a success. They got the whole boat.

Reaalllly?! I thought the story was that half the sub went back down... so you're saying that they recovered it (the part that went back down). And since the reports say that they canceled going back to finish up the work, what other work was there to do, if they got the whole boat. I'm just wondering... :-)

19 posted on 02/13/2010 9:52:50 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Golf II class submarine

20 posted on 02/13/2010 9:56:23 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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