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Biden says Iraq war wasn't worth `horrible price'
breitbart ^ | 2/14/10 | AP

Posted on 02/14/2010 9:48:14 AM PST by Nachum

WASHINGTON (AP) - Vice President Joe Biden says the Iraq war hasn't been worth its "horrible price."

He says the war was mishandled from the outset and that the U.S. took its eye off the ball. As a result, he says the U.S. was left in a more dangerous position in Afghanistan, where al-Qaida hatched the Sept 11 attacks.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: biden; horrible; iraq; price
Interesting note: The AP kept the headline and buried the story. The only news source that I could find to keep the original text was Breitbart. A little too 'Orwellian' for my taste. If Reagan was "The Gipper", why just call Biden, the "Gaffer".
1 posted on 02/14/2010 9:48:14 AM PST by Nachum
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The list, ping

Let me know if you'd like to be on or off the ping list.

2 posted on 02/14/2010 9:49:00 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I wonder how he feels about the American revolution.

Or the civil war.


3 posted on 02/14/2010 9:49:28 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Nachum

We’ll never know what the price of not going in would be. To me, part of the “horrible price” was that it contributed to Obama winning.


4 posted on 02/14/2010 9:50:14 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Nachum

Biden isn’t worth the price!


5 posted on 02/14/2010 9:51:03 AM PST by mort56 (He who would sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Dr. Sivana

We should’ve taken down the wahabbist saudis first.


6 posted on 02/14/2010 9:51:50 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Steely Tom

The pubs ought to immediately send out some folks and ask Biden...

SO YOU THINK THE WORLD WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITH SADDAM HUSSEIN STILL ALIVE...AND HIS AWFUL SONS?

Somebody go knock on the tanning booths...get the pubs out and about. the never mention Saddam...hung by his own people for god’s sake....started a war in 91....and he DID have weapons of mass destruction...not the pubs ever defended that mantra either.


7 posted on 02/14/2010 9:51:52 AM PST by Fishtalk
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To: Nachum
Guess, in his mind then, this doesn't say much for this administration's so-called greatest achievement. Poor Biden...never-ending doublespeak.
8 posted on 02/14/2010 9:51:55 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Nachum

Progressives and Libtards continue to rewrite history, while telling their oppenents and critics to NOT rewrite history....how quiant and ironic.....=.=


9 posted on 02/14/2010 9:51:56 AM PST by cranked
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To: Nachum
Then Obama and Biden should have removed the troops immediately on entering office.
10 posted on 02/14/2010 9:52:14 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: Nachum
Biden, and his like, the most prevalent reason to NOT have a Constitutional Convention!
11 posted on 02/14/2010 9:54:30 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Steely Tom
I wonder how he feels about the American revolution.

Or the civil war.

You mean the one coming up?
12 posted on 02/14/2010 9:55:13 AM PST by Dewey Revoltnow (Worst. Community. Organizer. Ever!)
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To: Nachum

Rush nailed Biden to the wall on Thursdays show:

Biden Claims Credit for Iraq Victory
February 11, 2010

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BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: This whole administration some days is a Scott Ott satire, a Saturday Night Live script. Larry King Live again last night, Joe Biden said this about Iraq...

BIDEN: I’m very optimistic about — about Iraq, and this can be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the, uh, end of the summer. You’re going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government.

RUSH: Do you know how hard it is to really not blow a gasket when you hear something like this? In the first place, it was Joe Lieberman that wanted to cut that country in three. It was Joe Lieberman and Barack Obama who opposed the surge, who proclaimed defeat in front of General Petraeus. They opposed everything that led to whatever they think now is stable in Iraq. Obama and Biden wanted to leave in defeat! Harry Reid: “This war is lost.” These people threw the US military under the bus! These people were doing everything they can to secure a defeat for the United States military and he has the chutzpah to go on Larry King Live and say, “This could be one of the great achievements of this administration.” Now, I know that there is rabid hatred for anything Bush in the far left of this country, and I just wonder if they even fall for this. One of the great achievements of this administration? They don’t have an achievement, folks. Not as you and I would measure achievements. The Obama administration doesn’t have one thing they have done positively for this country. I was all set to say that I think maybe Obama is dumber than Biden, until I heard that.

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RUSH: We’re going to have some audio coming up very soon, ladies and gentlemen. It’s Joe Biden saying he was going to ram Iraq down Bush’s throat, and another one of Biden saying, “Petraeus is dead wrong.” We could probably do a half hour of Biden quotes on what was wrong with the Iraq policy that they inherited, that they now claim was “one of the great achievements” of the Obama administration: Iraq. See, I hear something like this, and I ask myself: “Who...? Who has been paying attention the last three years, can possibly believe that or fall for it?” I’m serious. Who could possibly buy that?

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RUSH: Audio sound bite number 12 and we’ve dug up a couple others from our archive. Mike, number 22, 23 today. Here is Biden last night on Larry King Alive talking about Iraq.

BIDEN: I’m very optimistic about — about Iraq, and this can be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the, uh, end of the summer. You’re going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government.

RUSH: Everything he mentions he inherited. Every last word of that is the result of the Bush-Cheney administration — “the troops coming home,” “the stable Iraq government” — and yet this “could be one of the great achievements of this administration”? Why do we believe anything these people say ever? Why do we even grant them the notion that they are sane? This is worse than chutzpah, folks. This is insulting everybody’s intelligence. From December 26th, 2006, an Associated Press story: “Biden Vows to Fight Any Iraq Troop Boost.” This was prior to the surge. Anne Flaherty, AP writer: “Sen. Joseph Biden, the incoming chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he will fight President Bush if the administration decides to send more US troops to Iraq. Biden, who has his eye on the Democratic presidential nomination, also warned that if congressional Republicans do not join him in speaking out against Bush that they — not Democrats — will suffer in the 2008 elections. ‘I just think it’s the absolute wrong strategy,’ Biden said Tuesday of an increase in troops,” that very increase now he’s claiming is one of the great achievements of this administration. Biden said — you’ll remember this when I tell you. He came out of the meeting, he was talking to the press, and he said he delivered this message in a recent meeting. He told Mr. Bush, “Mr. President, this is your war.” This is your war! Let’s move forward from 2006 to 2007. April 27th, Columbia, South Carolina, at Jim Clyburn’s annual fish fry, Senator Biden mingling with audience members and an unidentified audience member says, “When the president kills that bill on the first, what’s going to be the next version of that bill that you are going to send him?”

BIDEN 2007: The first thing I’m going to do is veto that bill and I’m going to take out that money for those MRAPs, those — those vehicles to save lives over there. The idea we’re not — I gotta kid going over there — the idea that we’re not building new Humvees with the V-shaped thing is just crap, man! Kids are dying that don’t have to die. The second thing we’re going to do is shove it down his throat.

RUSH: The second thing we’re going to do is shove it down his throat. Joe Biden, April 27th, 2007. Go back to sound bite number 12 once again where Biden said this last night on Larry King Alive.

BIDEN: I’m very optimistic about — about Iraq, and this can be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the, uh, end of the summer. You’re going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government.

RUSH: Everything he’s taking credit for he inherited. He opposed everything that led to that which he now takes credit for and he actively fought it and said he was going to “ram it down Bush’s throat.” On Meet the Press September 9th, 2007, Tim Russert said, “General Petraeus said in a letter to his troops, ‘My sense is that we have achieved tactical momentum, have wrested the initiative from our enemies in a number of years in Iraq. We are, in short, a long way from the goal line but we do have the ball and we’re driving down the field.’ Is that what you expect him to say tomorrow?”

BIDEN 2007: He’s dead, flat wrong. The fact of the matter is that there is — that this — uh — this idea of the security gains we made have had no impact on the underlying sectarian dynamic. None. None whatsoever. Can anybody envision a central government made up of Sunni, Shi’a, and Kurds that’s going to gain the trust and respect of 27 million Iraqis? There have been some tactical gains, but they have no ultimate bearing at this point on the prospect of there being a political settlement in Iraq that would allow American troops to come home without leaving chaos behind.

RUSH: Folks, this is serious stuff, because that’s exactly what happened. It is exactly what happened, and yet Biden... I want to play these two sound bites again. I don’t want you to forget this. Because that sound bite you just heard is exactly what happened. Biden said there was no way it would happen. So here he is last night again on Larry King Alive (maybe), claiming that Iraq... You anti-war people on the left, are you hearing this? Your guys are now claiming credit for “a great achievement” in their administration, the Iraq war? Here’s what Biden said.

BIDEN: I’m very optimistic about — about Iraq, and this can be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the, uh, end of the summer. You’re going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government.

RUSH: I mean, this is the guy who wanted to cut the country in three! Okay, so it’s a great achievement, a great achievement this administration: Iraq, 90,000 coming home, a stable government. Meet the Press September 9, 2007.

BIDEN 2007: He’s dead, flat wrong. The fact of the matter is that there is — that this — uh — this idea of the security gains we made have had no impact on the underlying sectarian dynamic. None. None whatsoever. Can anybody envision a central government made up of Sunni, Shi’a, and Kurds that’s going to gain the trust and respect of 27 million Iraqis? There have been some tactical gains, but they have no ultimate bearing at this point on the prospect of there being a political settlement in Iraq that would allow American troops to come home without leaving chaos behind.

RUSH: It’s exactly what happened! It is precisely what happened. He “inherited” all of this that he says constitutes a great achievement for his stupid administration, every damn bit of the policy from George W. Bush and Cheney. These are the guys that said Petraeus is a liar. These are the guys who supported that New York Times ad saying the surge would never work. Harry Reid: “This war is lost.” You military people, I hope you’re hearing this because these are the people in your country running your show. These are the most dishonest, the most diabolical people that have led this country in my lifetime. They are sick, mentally unstable. I don’t know who their friends are anymore. We are talking about this at the top of the hour. The gays in the military, they’re not happy with them anymore. The Hispanics are kind of docile: “Where’s the immigration bill?”

Al Sharpton, by the way, might have been... (interruption) Hi. My picture is being taken. Let me pose for the picture here, again. I will not lose my train of thought. Okay. You know, I always say that Obama is the least experienced, least qualified guy whenever he walks into a room. Yesterday was an exception: Al Sharpton walked into the Oval Office, along with Ben Jealous of the NAALCP. I think, in that case, it’s a close call, but Obama might have been a little bit more experienced and qualified depending on what was discussed. But these guys are upset because there haven’t been any jobs in the black community. I mean, who in his coalition is happy? The unions are ticked off, Wall Street’s ticked off. Every member of his coalition is mad at him or ambivalent right now. But you anti-war people! The anti-war, “Bush is evil” is what propelled this guy to the White House, and now your guy and Biden are claiming credit for a brilliant achievement in Iraq!

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RUSH: Yes. Back we are. Rush Limbaugh, again having regained my composure from once again being exposed to a genuine fool: Joe Biden. He’s a genuine embarrassment. On the same show — after these outrageous, foolish comments about the great Iraq achievement of the Obama administration — Larry King says (doing impression): “Sarah Palin. What do you say?”

BIDEN: Well, you know, it’s — it’s s-sort of like, uh, some — some of the comments made are just so far sorta out there. I — I — I just don’t know where they come from.

RUSH: You don’t understand common sense, then. “[S]ome of the comments are so far out there.” You mean like you claiming credit as a great achievement, your Iraq policy? Or how about this. September 9th, 2008, Columbia, Missouri.

BIDEN 2008: Uh, uh, Chuck Graham, state senator, is here. Stand up, Chuck. Let ‘em see you. (rimshot) Oh, God love you. What am I talking about? (rimshot) I tell you what, you’re making everybody else stand up, though, pal. (rimshot) I tell you what, stand up for Chuck! (rimshot)

RUSH: That was a Democrat Missouri state Senator Chuck Graham who is in a wheelchair, and Biden said, “Stand up, Chuck! Oh, my God, what am I..? Oh, God. Everybody stand up. Stand up for Chuck!” Chuck said (paraphrased), “What the hell is happening here? Why is everybody standing up for me? Why is everybody highlighting the fact I can’t stand up?” Brought to you by Joe Biden.

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RUSH: I’m not going to let go of this Biden comment last night, ladies and gentlemen, on Larry King: “Iraq could be one of the great achievements of this administration.” It’s pure hypocrisy. I wonder, too, if this is going to be something that gets Biden into trouble, because Biden’s out there saying (paraphrased): “Hey, hey, look at what we’ve done! We’ve had victory in Iraq, victory in Iraq,” and that’s not something the left wants to hear.

By the way, at the White House press briefing, this idiot press secretary, Robert Gibbs, just said the administration doesn’t believe Iran is a nuclear state. Gibbs said, “We don’t believe that Iran has the capabilities to enrich uranium to 20%,” and yet this is the same administration that didn’t even know that Iran had a second nuclear power plant in addition to the one they had admitted to. So this is all very reassuring. But back to Joe Biden and the true history of Biden and Obama and the Democrats on the war in Iraq. April 2007.

BIDEN 2007: Last night, like millions of my fellow Americans, I listened intently to the president of the United States lay out his new strategy for Iraq. We all hoped and prayed that the president would present us with a plan that would make things better. Instead, I fear, that what the president has proposed is more likely to make things worse.

RUSH: He’s talking about the surge, which made things better, that now Biden credits for and claims as having been a great achievement of his administration. March 14th, 2007.

BIDEN 2007: (screaming) What happens after we surge these women and men? And, by the way, he said president — General Petraeus is — is one who believes — He may be the only one who believes this is a good idea! Virtually, no one else think it’s a good idea!

RUSH: Barack Obama January 10th, 2007: The surge will not work.

OBAMA 2007: I am not persuaded that, uh, 20,000 additional troops in Iraq is gonna, uh, solve the sectarian violence there. In fact I think it will do the reverse. I think it takes pressure off the Iraqis to arrive at the sort of political accommodation that every observer believes is the ultimate solution, uh, to the problems we face there.

RUSH: There you go. Obama: Surge won’t work, January 10th, 2007. Biden again, March 2007.

BIDEN 2007: (screaming) This is a cycle of self-sustaining sectarian violence that 20,000, 30,000, 50,000, a hundred thousand Americans will not be able to stop!

RUSH: Joe Biden, claiming credit last night for the surge as being a great achievement of the Obama administration. Obama again, January 2007, saying there is no “military solution.”

OBAMA 2007: We cannot impose a military solution on what effectively become a civil war. And until we acknowledge that reality, uh, we can send 15,000 more troops, 20,000 more troops, 30,000 more troops. Uh, I don’t know any expert, uh, on the region or any military officer that I’ve spoken to, uh, privately that believes that that is going to make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground.

RUSH: Doesn’t this sound familiar? He hasn’t talked to an economist who thinks the tax cut would work. He hasn’t talked to an economist who thinks anything that would work would work. He hasn’t talked to anybody! He never talks to anybody who thinks that what will work will work. He talks to ignoramuses. He is an ignoramus. He talks to idiots! And Biden goes out there and claims credit for all of this as “a great achievement” of the Obama administration. Here is Obama last year after taking office. On February 27th, 2009, changing his tune...

OBAMA 2009: The situation in Iraq has improved. Violence has been reduced substantially from the horrific sectarian killing of 2006 and 2007. Al-Qaeda in Iraq has been dealt a serious blow by our troops and Iraq security forces and through our partnership with Sunni Arabs. The capacity of Iraq’s security forces has improved and Iraq’s leaders have taken steps towards political accommodation.

RUSH: No thanks to Barack Obama or Joe Biden. They opposed every step of what led to success. You want to hear the man who won the war in Iraq? We go back to January 10th, 2007.

BUSH 2007: This is a strong commitment. But for it to succeed, our commanders say the Iraqis will need our help. So America will change our strategy to help the Iraqis carry out their campaign to put down sectarian violence and bring security to the people of Baghdad. This will require increasing American force levels. So I have committed more than 20,000 additional American troops to Iraq. The vast majority of them — five brigades — will be deployed to Baghdad.

(playing of Obama parody song: What’d Joe Say?)

RUSH: That’s “white comedian” Paul Shanklin as Barack Obama as Ray Charles and What’d Joe Say?

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RUSH: It just keeps getting better and better and better. Somehow a reporter asked this idiot press secretary, Robert Gibbs, this afternoon at the press briefing: “The vice president said last night that Iraq could be ‘one of the president’s greatest achievements.’ Given that the vice president was in favor of a partial partition of the country and the president opposed the surge that helped stabilize it, how is that one of the president’s great achievements?”

GIBBS: Getting our troops home, which we intend to do in August of this year.

REPORTER: The agreement to bring the troops home was signed before the president took office.

GIBBS: We will long debate Iraq. We will long debate whether at a very important moment in our efforts to root out terrorism — uh, particularly in Afghanistan on that border region with Pakistan, whether — we took our eye off the ball, historians will debate that long after we’re gone. The vice president’s been deeply involved in fixing the political process there so that elections can be held and our troops can, uhhh, come home as scheduled, uh, this summer.

RUSH: Biden fixed Iraq? Folks, you just heard the sound bites. Biden didn’t do anything but try to secure defeat. This is seriously, psychologically problematic. This is not just lying and trying to recast history. This is dangerous to have people like this in positions of power. I mean, people around the world listen to this stuff and they think, “We’re dealing with idiots in the White House.” They gotta be out there laughing themselves silly at the two people running this country.

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Read the Background Material...

• LA Times: Joe Biden update: Iraq one of Obama’s ‘Great Achievements’
• Sweetness & Light: Biden: Petraeus ‘Dead Flat Wrong’ on Iraq
• Huffington Post: Joe Biden On Iraq: Staying Is “Killing Us”
• Sweetness & Light: Biden To Shove Iraq Down Bush’s Throat
• Washington Examiner: With Absolute Power, Team Obama Grows Stupid - Michael Barone


13 posted on 02/14/2010 9:55:50 AM PST by JohnLongIsland ( schmuckie schucks)
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To: Nachum

“Plugs” needs to buy a toupee.....with a brain attached.


14 posted on 02/14/2010 9:55:59 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Nachum

Nothing that Obama does is worth the horrible price.


15 posted on 02/14/2010 9:56:17 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("My...health care plan is a Bolshevik plot... which will destroy America." - Barack Obama)
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To: Nachum
The stimulus plan was not worth the horrible price.

Cash for clunkers was not worth the horrible price.

The Health Care Plan is not worth the horrible price.

Cap and Trade is not worth the horrible price.

The $2 trillion deficit was not worth the horrible price.

Electing Obama was not worth the horrible price.
16 posted on 02/14/2010 9:59:08 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("My...health care plan is a Bolshevik plot... which will destroy America." - Barack Obama)
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To: Nachum
SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements-

(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.

(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this resolution supercedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

Passed the Senate September 14, 2001.

That pinhead voted - did he ever vote to remove these powers?

No, then SHUT UP PLUGS!

17 posted on 02/14/2010 10:00:51 AM PST by BigLittle
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To: Nachum

I am glad to know that VP Biden considers the time I and several hundred thousand others spent in Iraq working 16-18 hour days without a day off for months at a time, doing the impossible routinely, as a “horrible price and not worth it” He may want to talk to some of us, before placing value on this. Is there anyone in this administration who has some grasp of reality? He is a seemingly endless gaff machine.


18 posted on 02/14/2010 10:01:05 AM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Nachum
Unable to defend anything Obama's doing, he spends his time criticizing legislation that he voted for.

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Stand up, Chuck!

19 posted on 02/14/2010 10:02:40 AM PST by death2tyrants
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To: Nachum

What does it say about the morality of a Supreme Leader of the country that he would accepts the expenditure of American lives for something he knew at his core was NOT worth that price?

Simply and utterly astounding to me.


20 posted on 02/14/2010 10:03:07 AM PST by R0CK3T
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To: Nachum
If Reagan was "The Gipper", why just call Biden, the "Gaffer".

Goober is more fitting don't you think? ;-)

21 posted on 02/14/2010 10:10:30 AM PST by Dem Guard
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To: Nachum

The Christians in Iraq may just agree with what the “Gaffer” has to say. Most of them have fled to Turkey where they are also persecuted but at a lesser extent.

The West’s mistake is that it uses Western logic and methods to solve Muslim problems. Look back in history and ask the question what the European powers accomplished in the ME right after WWI — zilch.

Want to solve Muslim problems? Then read up on how Mohammed solved his. It was definitely not done with kindness and humanity. Sorry, the West had better sh*t or get off the pot.


22 posted on 02/14/2010 10:15:30 AM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: Nachum

Joe Biden is practicing for the understudy role of the VP in a hoped for remake of ‘Dave’.


23 posted on 02/14/2010 10:41:42 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: Nachum

That realy makes the troops who sarcificed feel warm.Great morale boost,Joe.

When the dictatorships in the Middle East implode like an Eastern EUrope chain reation (1989-90), let’s remember Democrats had nothing to do with it.

What a friggin dope.


24 posted on 02/14/2010 10:54:58 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Obama will sink as fast as he rose. Idolatry will not succeed. Be patient, folks...)
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

Thanks. You may witness revolution in the Middle East sooner than you expect.

Iran is going to fall this year, and I expect other Arab states to feel great strains.

What you did will change the face of the M.E.

You’re sacrifice will be rewarded.


25 posted on 02/14/2010 10:58:56 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Obama will sink as fast as he rose. Idolatry will not succeed. Be patient, folks...)
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To: Nachum
Hey Joe... short memory?

Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, February 5, 2003

Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States. Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-CT, September 4, 2002

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." Secretary of State - Madeline Albright, 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." Senator Robert Byrd, October 2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we." Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." Bill Clinton in 1998

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." Tom Daschle in 1998

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002 "I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." John Kerry, October 9, 2002

"We need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002

"Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States." Joe Lieberman, August, 2002

"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons. U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction." Patty Murray, October 9, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq’s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East." John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration’s policy towards Iraq, I don’t think there can be any question about Saddam’s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2003

There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. As this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them. Gen. Tommy Franks March 22, 2003 We are asked to accept Saddam decided to destroy those weapons. I say that such a claim is palpably absurd. Tony Blair, British Prime Minister 18 March, 2003

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

26 posted on 02/14/2010 11:56:05 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: Nachum

You are an Idiot Mumbles! Go cry to your Mommy.


27 posted on 02/14/2010 12:40:50 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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