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Hired guns secure ships, stir controversy
Stars and Stripes ^ | February 15, 2010 | By Sandra Jontz,

Posted on 02/14/2010 4:15:21 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

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To: 9422WMR

No wonder there are so many pirates taking so many ships, what with these pu$$ies running things. Oh my, we might have liability concerns, now where did I put my handbag?

What, the pirates are going to sue you? What a fool.


21 posted on 02/14/2010 4:28:00 PM PST by Newtoidaho (Liberals are nothing more than drooling buffoons. Spread the word.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

If I owned a cruise line, I would set up an anti-piracy cruise. I think it would be a money maker.

Bring your own arms and bullets.

General orders alarm sounds, and the cruise goers get to repel the pirates.


22 posted on 02/14/2010 4:28:11 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
"It poses a lot of questions, like under what rules of engagement will they operate?" Mason asked. "We would not speak against [companies] that choose to embark security teams, but as an industry, we are opposed to private forces on ships. They are unregulated and present potential legal problems. We oppose private escort boats for the same reasons."

Yet these are the same individuals who will hire armed bodyguards to chauffer them around London.

23 posted on 02/14/2010 4:28:51 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Jet Jaguar
"It slightly smacks of vigilantism to me," said Tony Mason, secretary general of the International Chamber of Shipping and International Shipping Federation.

how on earth did so many Englishmen ever become such pussies?

24 posted on 02/14/2010 4:32:57 PM PST by wardaddy (I have been in a serious RHCPers mood lately......)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Someone tell me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure there is an International maritime Law definition of Piracy and Pirates that could be brought to apply. I am willing to bet this was used when the US nailed those SOBs last April?

Or, should companies needing to navigate the waters off Somalia and other similar paradises just put all the crew in lifeboats and leave a big sign that says “all yours” and leave the keys on the bridge?


25 posted on 02/14/2010 4:33:11 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The Gulf of Aden is flanked by volatile Somalia on one side and unstable Yemen on the other. For several years, the U.S. Navy and Coast Guard have trained the Yemeni coast guard sailors to protect their shoreline — training the Yemeni government is parlaying into additional revenue by allowing the coast guard to hire out its cargo ship protection services.

It's agreed, then. You guys will attack the ships, and we'll rent ourselves out as security guards. When we come after you firing blanks, you retreat to shore. Afterwards we split the money we get from guarding the ships.


26 posted on 02/14/2010 4:36:09 PM PST by Nick Danger (Free cheese is found only in mousetraps)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Disregarding the panty wearers requisite indignant foot stamping that someone is taking the law into their own hands, this is exactly how you handle pirates when the International Union of Ineffectual and Effeminate Pansies has decided that it's better for innocents to be taken prisoners and risk death rather than take a stand.

Maybe enough pirates will be killed to eventually make the transit safe without needing these shepherd to stand guard over the fat sheep.

27 posted on 02/14/2010 4:37:56 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I answered my own question:

United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) of 10 December 1982, Part VII: High Seas, Article 101: http://www.un.org/Depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part7.htm

Definition of piracy

Piracy consists of any of the following acts:

(a) any illegal acts of violence or detention, or any act of depredation, committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or a private aircraft, and directed:

(i) on the high seas, against another ship or aircraft, or against persons or property on board such ship or aircraft;

(ii) against a ship, aircraft, persons or property in a place outside the jurisdiction of any State;

(b) any act of voluntary participation in the operation of a ship or of an aircraft with knowledge of facts making it a pirate ship or aircraft;

© any act of inciting or of intentionally facilitating an act described in subparagraph (a) or (b).


My take — fire away under a UN blue flag even.


28 posted on 02/14/2010 4:40:17 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: PGR88

Good lord man 100,000 rounds. Seems like a couple burst of 50 cal would be enough to make a dingy tooth picks. But if it must be done I will shoot off the 100,000 rounds. Just don’t give me the A-gunner I had in the corps.


29 posted on 02/14/2010 4:44:14 PM PST by jimpick
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To: Jet Jaguar; Jack Hydrazine; All

From a few months ago....

THE ENTREPENEURIAL SPIRIT IS ALIVE AND WELL IN THE CRUISE LINE
INDUSTRY....

I was checking cruise lines because I heard the rates are very cheap
right now.

I fou nd a Somali cruise package that departs from Sawakin (in the Sudan
) and docks at Bagamoya (in Tanzania ).

The cost is a bit high @ 800 per person double occupancy but I didn’t
find that offensive. What I found encouraging and enlightened is that
the cruise is encouraging people to bring their ‘High powered weapons’
along on the cruise. If you don’t have weapons you can rent them right
there on the boat. They claim to have a master blacksmith on board and
will have reloading parties every afternoon. The cruise lasts from 4-8
days and nights and costs a maximum of $3200 per person double occupancy
(4 days). All the boat does is sail up and down the coast of Somalia
waiting to get hijacked by pirates. Here are some of the costs and
claims associated with the package.

$800.00 US/per day double occupancy (4 day max billing)

M-16 full auto rental $ 25.00/day ammo at 100 rounds of 5.56 armor
piercing ammo at 15.95

Ak-47 riffle @ No charge. ammo at 100 rounds of 7.62 com block ball ammo
at 14.95

Barrett M-107 .50 cal sniper riffle rental 55.00/day ammo at 25 rounds
50 cal armor piercing at 9.95

Crew members can double as spotters for 30.00 per hour ( spotting scope
included).

They even offer RPG’s at 75 bucks and 200 dollars for 3 standard loads

“Everyone gets use of free complimentary night vision equipment and
coffee and snacks on the top deck from 7pm-6am.”

Meals are not included but seem reasonable.

Most cruises offer a mini-bar... these gung ho entrepreneurs
offer......... get this.....

“MOUNTED MINIGUN AVAILABLE @ 450.00 per 30 seconds of sustained fire”

Sign my ars up!

They advertise group rates and corporate discounts...... and even claim
“FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY”
They even offer a partial money back if not satisfied....here’s some
text from the ad.

“We guarantee that you will experience at least two hijacking attempts
by pirates or we will refund half your money back including gun rental
charges and any unused ammo ( mini gun charges not included).. How can
we guarantee you will experience a hijacking? We operate at 5 knots
within 12 miles of the coast of Somalia . If an attempted Hijacking does
not occur we will turn the boat around and cruise by at 4 knots. We will
repeat this for up to 8 days making three passes a day along the entire
length of Somalia . At night the boat is fully lit and bottle rockets
are shot off at intervals and loud disco music beamed shore side to
attract attention. Cabin space is limited so respond quickly. Reserve
your package before Feb 29 and get 100 rounds of free tracer ammo in the
caliber of your choice.”

As if all that isn’t enough to whet your appetite, there were a few
testimonials

“I got three confirmed kills on my last trip. I’LL never hunt big game
in Africa again. I felt like the Komandant in Schindlers list!”—— Lars
, Hamburg Germany

“Six attacks in 4 days was more than I expected. I bagged three pirates
and my 12yr old son sank two rowboats with the minigun. PIRATES 0
-PASSENGERS-32! Well worth the trip. Just make sure your spotter speaks
English”
Ned, Salt Lake city , Utah USA

“I haven’t had this much fun since flying choppers in NAM . Don’t worry
about getting shot by pirates as they never even got close to the ship
with those weapons they use and their shitty aim—reminds me of a
drunken ‘juicer’ door gunner we picked up from the motor pool back in
Nam” —”chopper’
Dan ——Toledo USA.

“Like ducks in a barrel. They turned the ship around and we saw them
bleed and cry in the water like little girls. Saw one wounded pirate
eaten by sharks—what a laugh riot!! This is a must do.-— Zeke-Minnahaw
Springs Kentucky USA

Finally, someone had the common sense to cash in AND solve a major
problem. These folks deserve a medal!


30 posted on 02/14/2010 4:55:44 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Jet Jaguar

31 posted on 02/14/2010 4:56:15 PM PST by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: freedumb2003

BTTT


32 posted on 02/14/2010 5:04:31 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Rebelbase

http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/

Good article about these Q ships.


33 posted on 02/14/2010 5:08:59 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: wardaddy
"how on earth did so many Englishmen ever become such pussies?"

The brave ones either emigrated to America, or died in World Wars I & II, leaving behing the cowardly, weak, infirm and imbeciles to continue inbreeding. England is a modern-day laboratory of "un-natural" selection.

34 posted on 02/14/2010 6:01:48 PM PST by 10mm
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To: Jet Jaguar

“just like you can’t go on the streets of London, and shoot people likely to do harm to you.”

This is exactly why it flourishes...


35 posted on 02/14/2010 7:04:48 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Liberals are educated above their level of intelligence.. Thanks Sr. Angelica)
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To: Newtoidaho

I would just love to see how many of our pussy lawyers would run right over to Somalia to represent these folks. This would solve a few problems here. They get to keep whatever lawyers they can secure.


36 posted on 02/14/2010 8:17:15 PM PST by eaglesiniowa ((Hope is not a course of action))
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To: jimpick

Good lord man 100,000 rounds. Seems like a couple burst of 50 cal would be enough to make a dingy tooth picks.


Just in case they sent others also!


37 posted on 02/14/2010 8:34:32 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Jet Jaguar
Unbelievably believable...in a world gone mad with limp wrists and jellied spines...

Apophis is our only real hope.

38 posted on 02/14/2010 10:44:12 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: jimpick

How is your hearing these days?


39 posted on 02/15/2010 6:36:11 AM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It is. ;-)


40 posted on 02/15/2010 6:38:23 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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