Meanwhile Cheney talks about how gays should geta free pass. Sick of the McCains and Cheneys gay agenda.
Thanks Ubama, you ****. You’re getting more of OUR troops killed.
IF CONGRESS CONTINUES TO RUN THE WAR, AS WE HAVE LEARNED SINCE WWII, WE WILL NOT WIN IN THE MIDDLE EAST. STRATEGY BELONGS IN THE HANDS OF THOSE WHO WERE TRAINED FOR MILITARY SUCCESS. WWII WAS WON BY MEN WHO WOULD NOT ACCEPT FAILURE FOR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS OR RIDICULOUS RULES OF ENGAGEMENT!! GOD BLESS THE MEN IN THE AIR FORCE, MARINES, ARMY, NAVY, NATIONAL GUARD AND COAST GUARD. bECAUSE THEY ARE A BLESSING TO AMERICA!
No! When you see something, and there is probable cause, you Mirandize it. Back to the re-education camp, Lance Cpl!
We'll never be successful in another "war" while we fight with a bunch of insane rules of engagement.
They shoot you and drop their gun and get a free pass??
Thats insane.
Wow, this from the NY Slimes, the tide is definitely turning against Obozo and Company.
OMG!!!! This is UNFREAKING BELIEVABLE!!!
Under the current rules of engagement, troops retain the right to use lethal force in self defense, said U.S. Col. Wayne Shanks, a spokesman for the international force.
The rules seek to put the troops in the ‘’right frame of mind to exercise that right,’’ Shanks said. They require troops to ask a few fundamental questions:
— Even if someone has shot in my general direction, am I still in danger?
— Will I make more enemies than I’ll kill by destroying property, or harming innocent civilians?
— What are my other options to resolve this without escalating the violence?
Amazed that this was actually printed by the Times!
[Are We Fighting To Win?]No. This is year 9 of whack-a-mole against an unnamed enemy.
I hope the troops brought some good lawyers along.
Added “roe” keyword to this thread. This issue seems to be gaining the political momentum it deserves.
The “Rules” are the only reason this is still ongoing.
A 21st century army with air support and all the high-tech doodads you can think of can’t beat a 19th century army with little more than Kalashnikovs and some C4?
It wouldn’t have been pretty, but given a free rein, Rommel and the Afrika Korps would’ve wiped the floor with the Taliban years ago.
War ain’t pretty. Your choice.
Not ONE Dem on the National Stage EVER uses the word ‘VICTORY’!
We can’t gain support from the Afghans, especially those in the hinterlands, unless we convince them that we are serious about winning. One of bin Laden’s speeches is to remind peasants that the Americans threw the South Vietnamese to the wolves by withdrawing troops and funding, and warning them that Al Qaeda and the Taliban will still be around after we leave Afghanistan.
This ROE is just wrong. Can it get anymore insane under this administration?
These ROEs and the JCS licking Obama’s boots are going to kill this country. It certainly is costing us our precious heroes.
I can imagine a murder charge being the result of these murky and impossible rules of engagement.
This has been going on since last spring when McCrystal, ‘bummers lap dog, was put in charge.
How many of you remember this story from last Sept? This told the public about these new ROE. Where was the out cry? They should have been recinded long before now.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/75036.html
“WE'RE PINNED DOWN: 4 U.S. MARINES DIE IN AFGHAN AMBUSH”
August was the deadliest month of the whole war for our troops = AND EACH MONTH BREAKS A NEW RECORD...because of the new ROE - Rules of Engagement...
which are NOT to provide air cover for our troops, even when ambushed, pinned down and being killed. (the rationale for these new ROE’s admits that it will cause more deaths for our troops now but that it will be worth it in the long run. Worth it for WHO?)
This is treason. Pure and simple. That is aiding and abetting the enemy, who now knows THEY have the cover, not our troops - and they are ramping it up.
The MSM have been ignoring this almost a year - and are now treating it like its news - of course, I guess it is to a lot of people who pay little attention.
But for the AP & NYT to actually put it in print must mean they can't keep a lid on it anymore - I'm praying really hard that someone will finally make an uproar big enough to rescind these idiotic ROE - the Taliban could fight forever under these one sided ‘rules’
And if they capture a terrorist - excuse me, I see we're back to ‘insurgents’ - in the battlefield, they are no longer allowed to question them - but must immediately read them ‘their Miranda rights’. Excuse me, how could it be THEIR Miranda Rights? They are not U.S. citizens.
this costs more of our troops lives. There
s m ore - but I am very tired - and I have my dear grandson back in that hell hole on his second deployment.
People, there has been a coup in the U.S. - the WH has been taken over by an American/Constitution hating Marxist and a gang of Chicago street thugs - and their puppeteers behind the curtain.
It looks like even the democrats are realizing it - and are bailing. Batten down the hatches...
Pray hard - fight harder.