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Liberals Say U.S. Is Ungovernable. Again.
American Thinker ^ | 2-16-2010 | Christopher Chantrill

Posted on 02/15/2010 10:33:17 PM PST by smoothsailing

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To: smoothsailing

to govern means to control. hmm, freedom is having to say we do NOT want to be controlled. Limited government is a GOOD THING,


21 posted on 02/15/2010 11:27:13 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Amen. The rule of law to liberals: “you are not fit to act because we know what’s good for you”. Submit to Obama now!


22 posted on 02/15/2010 11:28:29 PM PST by max americana
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To: smoothsailing
Liberals are at it again. They are worrying that the U.S. is "ungovernable."

If they're admitting they are incapable of governing, I would agree with them. But the fault lies in them, not America.

23 posted on 02/15/2010 11:33:32 PM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: smoothsailing
Don't they realize that the founding fathers wrote the U.S. Constitution precisely to make it hard to control the Senate? The founders wanted to restrain momentary Pelosian majorities in the House of Representatives with regional power in the upper house. They set the controls to make the U.S. almost ungovernable -- by design.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the filibuster a Senate procedural rule, and not something implemented by the Founders?

24 posted on 02/15/2010 11:56:12 PM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: sauron

I didn’t read the replies yet, so I guess that’s correct then. (I caught it, hah!)


25 posted on 02/15/2010 11:57:10 PM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: smoothsailing
Liberals Say U.S. Is Ungovernable. Again.

Damn straight. We can govern ourselves.

Learn it. Live it. Love it.

26 posted on 02/16/2010 12:04:04 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: smoothsailing

Un-govenerable? HellYa! It’s called ANTI-TYRRANY. Any questions? Goody. Class dismissed.


27 posted on 02/16/2010 12:09:41 AM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: DariusBane

Obama’s presense in the WH breaks the constitution. Don’t wonder why they are pushing unconstitutional legislation. They are unbound by it.


28 posted on 02/16/2010 12:13:33 AM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: smoothsailing

I’m glad they got that decided! Now they can stop trying.


29 posted on 02/16/2010 12:14:16 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Nooseman

why cant they just go find a place in northern california,and live their life.dangit.


30 posted on 02/16/2010 12:31:23 AM PST by Nooseman (--mart)
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To: smoothsailing

They’re pushing this crap all over.

Nonsense. We are the most ‘governed’ society in the history of mankind. The fact that we are willing to tolerate this in a non-violent manner blows the ‘ungovernable’ argument out of the water.


31 posted on 02/16/2010 1:40:51 AM PST by CowboyJay (T(s)EA - Honest money, or bust!)
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To: smoothsailing; All

They said that about NYC for years, too— and Rudy ( no fan here, but give him his due ) proved how wrong they were...


32 posted on 02/16/2010 2:33:21 AM PST by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: sauron

I knew a FReeper would catch this.

It reminds me of the useful idiots who say that our system of checks and balances means political parties checking one another.


33 posted on 02/16/2010 2:46:38 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in democrat stands for patriotism)
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To: smoothsailing
Yep, just because Americans will not go down the road to socialism, they are ungovernable.

Sure, whatever!

34 posted on 02/16/2010 3:07:55 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: smoothsailing
What happened to "consent of the governed?"

The American people don't want to be dictated to?

Imagine their nerve - demanding control over their own lives!

35 posted on 02/16/2010 3:56:08 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority (As Wichita falls so falls Wichita Falls)
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To: smoothsailing

“Liberals are at it again. They are worrying that the U.S. is “ungovernable.””
That’s what the scum say when we don’t go along with their version of communism.


36 posted on 02/16/2010 4:01:42 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: smoothsailing

Dear Liberals,

Governing.

You’re doing it wrong.


37 posted on 02/16/2010 4:02:53 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. (Hi Mom.))
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To: thecabal

“I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the filibuster a Senate procedural rule, and not something implemented by the Founders?”

I don’t think he was talking about the filibuster.

In the Constitution as written, Senators were not elected, but appointed by state legislatures—and that for a six year term. That was supposed to give them a certain stability that would counter the zigs and zags of the House, whose members are elected for two year terms.

James Madison said:

The use of the Senate is consistent in its proceedings with more coolness, more wisdom than the popular branch of government. Its hallmark would not be the majoritism of the House, but the emphasis on the rights of individual Senators to consider and impact legislation.

Tom Coburn said:

There are two examples in history on how the Senate has operated as intended as a bulwark against hasty decisions and bad policy.


38 posted on 02/16/2010 4:15:08 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: smoothsailing
Ezra Klein argued that it was time to reform the filibuster because the government cannot function with it intact anymore. Tom Friedman suggested that America's "political instability" was making people abroad nervous. And Michael Cohen of Newsweek blamed "obstructionist Republicans," "spineless Democrats," and an "incoherent public" for the problem.

Perhaps they find us ungovernable because they fail to follow the Constitution. Reform the filibuster? Republicans haven't really used it yet, we have not had the support to hold one. Our "political instablity" is the result of an out of control elitist political system. "Obstructionist" and "spineless," on the contrary, those too few who stood against the impending tyranny are called Patriots. And lastly the "incoherent public" is not drunk, nor high, nor disassembled, nor in a coma. We are awake, aware, and wondering why Washington still can't seem to hear us now.

It is not Americans who are ungovernable, it is the government that has gotten too big for its own britches.

39 posted on 02/16/2010 4:18:48 AM PST by EBH (The warning bell of Freedom is ringing, can you not hear it?)
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To: smoothsailing
'Liberals Say U.S. Is Ungovernable. Again.'

Yeah. We need a nice, gentle, benevolent DICTATOR to take complete charge.

Like say, this guy....

Oops, never mind. He's already trying to TAKE that role.
(NOT sarcasm)
40 posted on 02/16/2010 4:21:15 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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